Tangerine from 1010 Music

Those do require mentioned phone or tablet, tho :slightly_smiling_face: and have less ins and outs.

But I get your point :slightly_smiling_face:

@circuitghost Were you a beta tester on this one? It looks like a very focused and better spec’d piece of the multi/autosampler on the blackbox (sort of how the lemon drop also improved on the granular side of the BB).

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I was. Still am.

As far as multisampling goes, it’s better in so much as that it can hold 500+ samples at the same time. Which means you can have substantially more nuanced instruments such as pianos and strings, or build a little multi-timbral rig.

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It also just generally sounds better to my ears. Tho that could just be my ears. It’s not the same converters as the blackbox. And we’ll leave it at that.

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Does it run multiple instruments per session, or how is the architecture? Iā€˜m wondering if I can load like 128 instrument patches and address them via program change or something like that

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Is there are pics of the sequencer? Is it a piano roll like the bb? Can see it in use but can’t see an actual sequencer page with notes

Or is it just an audio looper that loops the triggered sounds?

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Very cool. There’s always a wall for me with multisampling synths as I really don’t like working inside my mac/logic for much more than final records and mixing. The feature on the BB worked but was a little cumbersome due to the processing limitations and I didn’t like to overload it.

I think the hyper focused nature, sound quality, and practical io for that multisample task at under $500 is a win. Just using this for band practice so I don’t need to lug any synths with me is very appealing.

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Yeah, this thing seems like it was designed to be my Digitakt’s little buddy. I’m pretty into it.

Two things I didn’t see in the videos though, can you set loop points in your multi-sampled instruments? And is there a legato mode?

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The Nanoboxes just sound so good. I’ve let friends test out my Lemondrop and Razz and the audio quality is always remarked on.

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Well that explains why they didn’t go full tilt with the sampling abilities on the Razz. Really love the Razz and that combined with this would make for a really capable combo. 1010 really doing a good job with creating a powerful setup that can all fit in a backpack. Wonder if they’ll ever do a fully decked out sequencer in nano size as a central brain for them all. Eager to hear hands on impressions.

Any videos? I’d love to see how the UI works, as well as the looping.

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Nanobox mixer on the roadmap for 1010?

could be a cool TX-6 competitor

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Could this act like ableton session mode or would that still be the blackbox?

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:face_with_raised_eyebrow:

Intriguing.

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Yeah, beside layered multi-sampling - which is important, OK, but not for me - I don’t see much edge over the Razz.

I’m quite disappointed right now that they never released any serious FW update on the pink one since 1.1 (right after launch)… They did a lot for their other products, but not the Razzmatazz, in spite of the jarring omissions it has. Sad. I hope the Tangerine will get more attention.

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I think I heard Nick Batt - in some video review - say he talked with 1010music about the hefty price tag, and one of the justifications they gave was the expensive AD converters.

My Razz does sound massive and pristine on big PA’s. It’s definitely no toy in this respect. I think 1010 can be relied on for sound quality.

(EDIT: for the record, should anybody care, 19:20 of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVQHUM63Mmc)

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no video of how it actually works on the website on release.
sold out, classic

the small form factor of these without a battery is an interesting choice to me.

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sort of reminds me of

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No, you cannot.

In theory, you can have an eight part multi-timbral multi sampled instrument going, if the polyphony (which is 24 voices) and the sample count (500+) is enough.

In practice, I’m finding that my Prophet 12 multi sample patches, I can hold about four or five, depending on if they’re monophonic or not, and then I’m out.

Not sure how program change works on this one, but on the blackbox you can switch to a new project by sending program change messages. It’s not a flawless transition, but it works if you’re clever about when you do the switch. A project is then the definition of which samples you got in memory, all their settings and possible sequences.

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It has a sequencer, but I’d best describe it as early days Roland SP sequencers. If you don’t mind jamming into it live, it certainly holds some merit. But it doesn’t compare to the blackbox sequencer and you should not get this one because of it sequencer, but rather see it as a bonus if you want to whip out some beats, improvise bass lines, fire up some chords or pads and stuff.

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Thank you, that was the impression I was getting

I think the BB is more the one for me

Cheers

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