But isnt overpowering the mix (stage) what guitarist’s have been trying to do since the invention of strings?
Let’s be honest, most of Strymon’s purchasers only occasionally play with other people. If you are a bedroom guitar player/producer, you want options to make the guitar bigger without necessarily meaning distortion.
There are plenty of albums with really big reverbs on it that work (they tend to be solo projects), you just can’t expect them to work when you bring in a drummer, bassist, synths, etc…
I’m liking this pedal and might get it, but I know I’ll stick with light spring or plate reverbs when playing with others.
Think of it like modular, where a lot of systems are monophonic but also fill the audio spectrum, not frequently mixing it with other sources.
To be fair though, if I spend $700 on a reverb pedal, I’m gonna want it to be noticeable. I wouldn’t use a Strymon reverb to just add a touch of subtle verb to a guitar, I’d buy it to blur the fuck out of it until it’s no longer recognisable. Or to make my synths sound like they’re being played in some impossible synthetic cavern.
The complaints in this thread about Strymon reverbs sounding digital, no shit?! When has a Quadraverb ever sounded analog, for that matter?
Same exactly, sold the Timeline and kept a Dig. Such a great sounding, super fast and hands on delay. Love the rhythmical intervals approach and I’m not missing the many choices and “general” parameters knobs of the biggest line pedals like the Timeline in the slightest.
Digital is fine. WAY too digital - glassy, sheeny high end - is not.
In my opinion.
I have my Quadraverb now permanently on my aux send into a stereo channel to EQ/mix. Fantastic.
Glassy, sheeny appeals to me
Not complaining about it sounding digital personally. All reverbs are digital. I love the Quadraverb because it’s crunchy and digital. I think Strymon reverbs sound great, in isolation.
The thing I struggle with is the increasingly sledgehammer approach of an awful lot of current reverbs. Personally, I’m a little bit over the whole “listen to my massive reverb” thing (unless it’s Autechre doing it, obvs).
Unless I’m doing very minimal stuff, I just feel like I’d have a mare getting this sort of reverb to fit in a mix.
I honestly don’t think reverbs have got any better since the Quadraverb came out, just bigger and more gimmicky. And a lot more expensive.
Just my opinion though, I’ve been known to be wrong about a lot of things.
I think what you are hearing and disliking is shimmer specifically, which is totally understandable, as it is definitely a modern trend that is love it or hate it.
Shimmer is inherently digital, and it emulates space in a weird way that I think can trigger some uncanny valley to some listeners.
And thats also because people are overusing (atleast in my opinion) reverbs, especially in “ambient music”. It is so easy and cheap (well… not necessarily) way to create massive soundscapes - just take one chord and turn mix and decay knob all the way to eleven from your Valhalla plugin and everything you run throught it sounds good. But all you heard is that reverb-algorithm and it pretty fast it turns out really booring.
I understand.
But at the same time, huge reverbs have been helping me to be more comfortable with very minimalist arrangements, in that I can make a whole track using just a monosynth and a ridiculous reverb, and have that verb carry the track by blurring the notes into a chord(s), much in the same way that the end of many Oversteps tracks end in that blur of reverb, just exploded out to be the focus of the track
I’m starting to agree with this actually, especially since playing with the Midiverb a bit more. The main reason why I want a good pedal reverb though, is to have a compact desktop unit that has more modern connectivity/controllability. Rack units are inconvenient for me, even in my studio where I have access to everything without having to put together small setups for live gigs.
I used own and use a couple of TC Electronic M3000 dual reverb units. They were very expensive back in the day but were/are amazing. Not at big, gimmicky reverb, but beautiful, natural fx. You can still make long and deep reverb but they won’t stick out like a sore thumb.
I’m not sure. I’ve listened closely to many strymon pedals - big sky, Deco (which I have), digi, the cabinet/ir pedal, magneto - and they all have this gloss. Valhalla Shimmer VST doesn’t have this issue. By my hearing anyway.
Good point. They work very well for that sort of thing, for sure.
wow, what a load of meh
I’ve been on Elektronauts for several years now, as a Octatrack owner. But I have skimmed past or skipped altogether the majority of off-topic joke posts, so I’m sure I missed out on a lot of in jokes.
As for this thing, it’s seems to be along the lines of the Adrenalinn, Hologram Dream Sequence, etc. A multi-effects pedal with sequencer like those others, except with a reverb as a focal point for selling. Every time I consider this type of pedal I eventually conclude that I’d rather use a sequencer with a synth, not a guitar. That said, I’m sure the peeps this appeals to will have fun with it.
At this point, I’d like to point out that no one really makes pedals for guitar players anymore anyway.
You could have used « bump »
Credit your source.
I disagree, @circuitghost, I think guitar players are still the target user group for most pedals (there are a lottttt of manufacturers over here, for example. It’s just that these bigger names have the means to create products that appeal to other types of users. And those companies tend to be the ones we hear about more often.
Speaking of jokes, if you have to repeat your joke, it’s not that good and you need to come up with a funnier joke. Sorry.