SSLS #4: FX track

As I wrote half a year ago — guys, you’re playing with fire! :smile:

The Elektrons will hear everything you’ve been messing with in here and leave us without an update… because the Syntakt is already perfect!

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We’re just showing Elektron we’re worthy :stuck_out_tongue:

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A little “can it hat” experiment—this is all UT impulse into FX block, not sure if pinging analog track filters is allowed in the spirit here, but posting anyway

The hat is an impulse-pinged fm’ed filter into reverb only, reverb into fx track with 2 notch phaser, then gated with the amp envelope set to ADSR. Other filter ping per an also get gated here.

Straight from ST to phone, so it’s on the quiet side.

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Make the filter self oscillate

By the way, my ST doesn’t allow to crank up the FX track filter to self-oscillation. Is that me doing something wrong or that’s intended behavior?

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I wondered this too, Ive never gotten a ping out of mine.

I just threw this out for someone to test, not sure it’s possible.

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The only way I got it to work without self oscillation was having the drive maxed, some trigs in the sequencer, and relying on the amp and filter’s envelopes to click just enough to butterfly effect the delay feedback.
I haven’t had luck with the FX filter doing it on its own either.

You got me thinking to try something though…
Can we do an audio rate LFO on the filter resonance and see if we can get anything going?
Bonus if we can key track the FX filter. Nope.
I can’t use it at the moment otherwise I will try, but I’ll see soon.

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Well, nope.
I can’t get the FX to make any perceivable audio without delay feedback.

But, I did have a little fun with the LFO on filter frequency with a sustained note from Sy Bits going through it. Thought it sounded neat and should share at least.

Now back to using delay feedback. No synths to kick anything off. LFO on reverb pre delay. I’m adjusting the delay feedback time and reverb decay.

I really didn’t expect to play around with this SSL as much as I have, but it’s eye/ear opening learning new ways to dig in to my Syntakt in unconventional ways.

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Now with a ping!

I press a key once to send a UT Impulse with a very fast and short filter envelope at max resonance to FX.
Let it build up in the delay feedback a moment, then start the sequencer where the FX block has the delay time locked at different speeds until it gets out of hand. Wee!

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Thread is blowing my mind, great work all. Love the gated reverb stuff. Syntakt is actually a beast for sound design.

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We should all be getting ourselves into the ringtone biz!

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Sorry for the confusion about the FX track’s «pingability», it was just an idea that popped up in my head. I couldn’t get it to ping either, just a distant ringing at max reso.

For a control freak like me, my main «issue» with this lab so far is that it’s difficult to get predictable results. Which is also part of the fun of course. Currently working on a drum pattern, which isn’t going particularly well :sweat_smile: Maybe sampling is a better technique to get repeatability (if that’s a word).

I did make a couple of observations that I found interesting though:

  • Rhythmic patterns can be achieved by lowering the volume of the FX track, and use synced LFO to VOL to achieve rhythmic patterns. The delay can self-oscillate in the background.
  • Not really relevant to this lab, but I had no idea it was possible to p-lock each track’s routing! (that is, through or outside the FX track). That’s huge in my book, and opens up the Syntakt for automated routings.
  • Not really a discovery, but I love that fact that you can route the reverb and the delay both before or after the FX track (shaping the reverb with the FX filter is one the highlights of the ST imo). And even achieve parallell filtered and unfiltered reverb tails, for example. The FX track design is simply a stroke of genius.
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Yes indeed: the base sound for this lab being the delay feedback, the same pattern will not give the same sound… Very hard to get something stable when in essence the sound you hear comes from what you get just before.
Now it kind of invites you to improvise, build and destroy at the same time, adapting to what you hear and learning things along the way…

My own discoveries:

  • retrigs on AFX track
  • drive lowers the volume
  • AFX filters unfortunately don’t self-oscillate
  • envelope-like modulations on FX get them screaming
  • FM has to be tested on absolutely every parameter, including routing

I’m very glad you all have fun with this too ^^

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With stuff like this you just need to press record and save the results for later. It’s a bit like a modular where you patch something unique and then it’s gone.

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Exactly.

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I refuse to give up on predictability!! :joy: Just joking ofc. I get it, and tbh there’s a lot of cool stuff in this thread already that can serve as sample fodder, which is much easier to harness in a controlled manner :slight_smile:

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Plug some Syntakt FX track feedback madness into the Octatrack with some live resampling going on and you can probably spend a couple of hours having great fun. I might just try that myself :slight_smile:

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I was able to create a nice arrangement by playing simultaneously and stopping those 4 tracks right here in the forum player

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I don’t like blips and blops (hope not get permanent ban for that), so I’ve been trying to make something melodic for two or three days. I’m not really satisfied with the result but it’s the best I could get given time I have.

300 BPM is a key but delay is too weak for karplus-Strong.
Siren-like sound is reverb and I have no idea how it works, just happy accident.
No FM, no Impulse trigs :upside_down_face:

I can reproduce this track, but sometimes delay doesn’t start to oscillate, just silence. To fix that I need to turn off Delay → FX routing, then stop the sequence (double press), enable Delay → FX back, and only then it sounds like the recording. Have no idea how it works as well.

Nobody share project files!

STLAB FX TRACK.stprj (4.4 KB)

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@diswest just double stop is not enough?