Like you I actually like the workflow of the Hapax better than that Oxi.
That’s part of why I wish that Squarp would pay it some attention – it’s already a nice sequencer, but it could be a great sequencer. I hope it eventually gets there, and that its progress is more than glacial!
I sometimes dream of Hapax but with the frequent updates of Oxi 
I don’t think there’s anything the Oxi does that Hapax couldn’t do with updates, since in hardware terms it has all it’s needed (except more cv/gates which I don’t use).
I ordered one, but haven’t had a chance to use it yet. I am mixing a few tracks, but once I am done and hook it up I can let you know! I hadn’t heard anything about the additional latency (although I am not using it live, so it wouldn’t matter) but I will measure it too.
Crikey lots of good insights here but it has spun my head in what to go for. T1 seemed an as well as but not for now. And I’m stuck between Hapax and oxi. Now deluge is in the mix.
Might just come down to price in the end.
Anyway, good honest discussion of pros and cons is great to read 
Oxi is great if you don‘t need many tracks or if you mainly sequence monophonic sources. Also, you‘ve got to be OK with navigating a Grid controller with many secondary functions. Bluetooth enabled and super portable.
Hapax has 2 x 16 tracks you can use to sequence, of those all could be polyphonic or MPE plus if you use a drum track, you can sequence 8 tracks on a single page (eg one drum track sequences all of my Digitakt‘s audio tracks - I think the Oxi has this track type as well). It‘s mostly a 2-layer UI, with many of the functions laid out right there with dedicated buttons. Two screens obviously, which help you navigate the Grid and its different modes (big deal for me). Hapax also has a bunch of midi FX which are very good (Oxi has some midi FX too I believe). In general it has some quality performance features, I got it as a sequencer to use for live performance mainly.
Oxi‘s support has been stellar, Hapax slower as you‘ve been reading here in the last few posts.
I‘ll eventually get an Oxi as well for the portability factor…I think it can be a great hardware seauencer on the go, eg to use with an iPad or similar.
If you‘re into Grid sequencers (or don‘t mind using a grid to sequence), I think you can‘t really go wrong with either, they are both very powerful devices. I went with the Hapax for its useability in live settings and it‘s much bigger track count.
Don‘t know much about the T1 so can‘t comment there 
Thanks for that. The button per function setup of the Hapax is ideal, as you say the support doesn’t sound great. At the price I’ll do more thinking/homework. Cheers for the feedback.
To be fair the last update was only 6 months ago and squarp have a history of updating firmware until their devices are in a state of perfection. And their customer support is also great.
I know we live in a world where something needs to happen every week or we lose interest, but I dont think it has been THAT long since the last update lol. I mean, they have to work on other stuff (like the hermod+ that just came out) to stay in business I imagine. Which is a good thing if you take a long term view :-).
From a modern software development point of view, half a year is a very long timeframe for something that is not a new release.
But we as customers need to realize (and should accept), that small companies need to work on new hardware constantly to keep money coming, and the alternative to teams having to rotate through projects (because the company isn’t big enough to have multiple teams) is companies closing and not releasing anything at all.
Here is the link to Hermod+
Still trying to convince myself that I don’t need a Hapax / Oxi because the sequencer on Elektron boxes were expensive enough. 
Hermod+ indeed looks cool and would be high on my list of eurorack modules to buy in the coming months if I wasn’t a bit soured by the pace of Hapax support. As it stands I’ll mentally file it away in my list of things to consider in 15-18 months to see how things have supported themselves out.
one presumes that aligning the new Hermod+ with Hapax’s architecture will actually make it easier to push out updates for both on the same development schedule, which should be good news for users of both
and Hapax has only been in the wild for a little over a year itself. still early days as product lifecycles go
this is my hope as well. i hope there is tight integration between the two over midi as a future feature.
that being said, i’ll hold off on buying a Hermod+ for awhile until I see how they develop the Hapax.
This.
Also, their technical support is great. Any questions asked are generally answered within a few days.
not sure what you mean by this… they are not really ‘aligned’, afaik… they are quite separate products, and have very different purposes and goals…
the Hermod+ is no more a ‘mini hapax’ than the Hermod was a mini-pyramid (a common misconception).
Hermod (both versions) are very much more focused on what you need in a eurorack modular environment. of course, they share some similarities (e.g. midi fx) but also have some important differences.
Ive been trying to convince of this (behind the scenes) for years… to build a kind of squarp ecosystem.
this wouldn’t detract from being used without other squarp products, but bring benefits when you use more than one.
I will say the use of TRS midi has actually done this a little , its now really pleasant to use Rample with either the Hermod+ and/or Hapax
note: for more comments on Hermod+, probably better to do on the hermod topic. as I mentioned there, Ive had Hermod+ for a while, so can answer any questions there (well at least to best of my ability)
I ended up selling my Hapax and Oxi for the Push 3 and I’m just using Ableton with an ES-9 for CV related stuff now. I definitely liked the Hapax more than the Oxi and hopefully over time the Hapax gets better. I never had any bugs or anything but development on the thing has been super slow as everyone else has mentioned.
Hermod+ was expected, that was honestly my guess as to what was gonna drop today as Hermod has been out of stock for awhile. I use NerdSeq personally so don’t really have use for this but it’ll be interesting to see how it progresses.
I liked the Hapax a lot but it really just added more unnecessary complexity to my set up, which had ableton at the heart anyways, if not just as a mixer / audio recorder, so I might as well use it for MIDI too. Hapax does cool midi stuff and generative stuff but that stuff also felt fairly gimmicky to me. The biggest thing I’ll miss is the instrument definitions though I know I can make similar things in max. Just gotta figure out how to use max lol.
yeah, I’ve felt this at times too… having multiple sequencers can be fun, but also alot of overhead.
personally, I moved over to having two ‘setups’…
one which is focused around Ableton/Push.
the other is a standalone setup.
I use a mioXM, so that synths/modular can stay be used in either mode without ‘re-configuring’.
so the Hapax is on the standalone setup, as is my Octatrack.
Hermod kind of sits in both camps… though in 2 different roles.
when Im using the modular on its own, I use it as a sequencer.
when Im using Live (or the Hapax), then its primarily a midi <-> cv interface.
but for sure, its easy to end up with duplication of roles, and this used to give me choice paradox, which is why I tried to work out, how each would fullful a role in different context.
btw: in Live, you can use instrument racks (with macros) in a similar way to instrument definitions for some use-cases.
as for Hapax dev… Im not concerned, over the years, Ive found that Squarp tend to take a more considered / conservative approach. I think they learnt this from the early experiences (in dev) of the pyramid. so Im happy they will get there,
but more important to me, is Ive faith they will keep the products stable and also have a. decent and consistent UI/workflow… rather than just keep chucking new features in that overload the UI.
but I can understand why some feel differently, esp. if you feel there is a feature missing that you need.
( I do have some things Id like to see, e.g. MPE editing, but nothing thats holding me back!)
I also have a hybrid and a standalone setup, Hapax is at the heart of both 
I use the OT‘s sequencer on the OT and the DT‘s sequencer for its audio tracks since the muting function on the Hapax requires two hands and lacks a feature or two for performance purposes. Otherwise I sequence all else from the Hapax. Same goes for VSTis. I have a Keystep, a Kawai MP11 and a Roli Seaboard going into the Hapax, routing all of it onward on a track per track basis. It‘s super fast and convenient. I use the Hapax sort of as a midi routing matrix and as powerful midi looper during jams, some of the performance features are really fantastic.
As you say, the UI is mostly immediate, which isn‘t a given for midi sequencers.
It‘s my first Squarp device, I followed the development of the Pyramid and saw how it grew and improved over time, same hope for the Hapax here.
Hmmm… yeah I was looking at a Hermod before as a Midi - CV converter but them being out of stock led me to go down the Es-9 road but I do have a secondary rack that’s main focus is to provide fun goodies for my Grandmother and Matriarch. A Hermod would be good for that, my Hapax used to directly provide CV to those modules and I was thinking of either getting a Bastl 1983 or the expert sleepers FH-2.
Tempting lol.