Setting up the OT to perform live with

[RiddimFernandez]

Hi there,

I have an rytm running into channel 1 and an analog4 running into channel 2, with an eventide space on the output channel. Channels 3-7 are for samples and channel 8 is the master out.

The OT is the master clock only - I am planning on changing the rytm and analog4 from one song to the next as a sample is playing back on the OT channels.

My plan is to make play back as simple as possible - including organization.

My question is - how best to set up my folders on the machines?

Is it better to have ONE project with many songs - OR - many projects with ONE song?
What do you think and why?

Thanks in advance.

[sezare56]

I think for live performance it is better to avoid to load projects. I have Ot + A4. For the moment I have many projects, because it is at home. I don’t use program changes to load A4’s patterns, but I think I’d sync Ot and A4 patterns, with corresponding projects.

That depends on how are your songs but I’d say one bank per song can be a simple way to organize them. The Arranger can be usefull to recall them at the right tempo/scenes/mutes…

[darmanmerdeka]

lately i change project most of the time, lets say twice every live performance as i have several composition in a different project. can you tell me what could happen if i keep doing this?

[RiddimFernandez]

Thanks! I will try using one project and setting up the songs in the banks.

[RiddimFernandez]

Maybe you can let me know if this makes sense…

In my head I am planning on only having one pattern of 16 (2 bars of 8) going for my songs and then turning each of the separate sounds on/off to perform a song. This will consist of Tracks 3-7 on the OT, 4 voices from the A4, and 16tracks from the rytm.

I am planning on naming each song the same for each device - and then changing the songs separately on each device. The OT will just be the start/stop and clock.

Is this the easiest way to link them all?

Thanks again for all the help.

[sezare56]

It seems to make sense. As I didn’t play live with several songs, other points of view and links to other theads are welcome.

[RiddimFernandez]

Hey again, I’ve been searching for info on this but I’m sure dedicated OT users can help by answering these questions pretty please:

• if i setup OT with one project and then have bank 1 for song 1, bank 2 for song 2… etc, does the bank change all of the tracks (from 3-7 in my case) on the OT?
• will this also change the samples in track?

Will this work? Thanks is advance.

Have a creative day.

[Open_Mike]

Yes.
Parts hold the machine and sample slot selection and you have 4 per bank, so in fact you can have 4 variations of tracks and samples per bank.
For simplicity many users have patterns 1-4 assigned to part 1, 5-8 part 2, 9-12 part 3, and 13-16 part 4.

After you set up bank 1 with your first song, when you switch to bank 2 it’s like starting over with 4 fresh parts to work with and empty patterns…

You can have different sample assignments on each part of each bank, but you must make sure to load the samples into different sample slots than ones used in other parts…
For example if you go to a new bank and load a flex to track one and it shows it having sample slot 1 loaded, do not change the sample in sample slot 1, as that will change the sample from any track in other parts or banks accessing slot 1. Instead move the new flex machine to a higher empty slot, and load the new sample there…
Cheers…

[alejander]

If I understand you…yes…each bank will start on new part1 so, you can change almost all…

Edit: Open Mike was faster!

[RiddimFernandez]

Thanks so much. I’m about to try and move some of my tracks from Ableton over to the OT to perform live. This helps a huge amount as I want to get it right the first time and stick to it.

[RiddimFernandez]

Thank you

[RiddimFernandez]

Thanks!

[Open_Mike]

Once you get each part the way you want it, remmember to save it right then…
That way you can always reload them if you mess them up…

[sezare56]

And fortunately, you can copy parts.

[MXJ]

@sezare56 @Open_Mike @RiddimFernandez I’m trying to figure out how to make a master project to play songs live. I have each song saved as a project. I imagine I need to somehow copy these projects into some kind of master project? How do you put a performance project together when all your songs are different projects?

Any help would be great

[SolitaryScience]

This is one of the best explanations I’ve ever seen !

It took me 2 years to really understand the “architecture” …and still learning nuances . And because I fear accidental project dump or loss. I did that with my MD early on .

[sezare56]

It is very complicated. You have to organise projects in banks, copy banks to the destination project, reorganize all sample slots…
I succeeded to merge a project in another one.

I’d recommend @Rusty’s Octaedit for that.

[Open_Mike]

I’ve never done what your up to. Seems @sezare56 has some good advice.
Copy/paste a bunch of stuff to a bank, copy the bank as a file to the master project, copy/paste from there to rearrange if needed, redo sample slots, repeat from same or other projects as necessary… Seems to be what he’s saying…

[sezare56]

Unfortunately there’s no copy bank function. You can copy and rename a bank in Ot’s file manager in order to replace another bank in another project, but it is easier with a computer writing on the card.

You also have to collect samples in each project you want to copy. Samples slots positions have to be the same. Make a list of samples you need.

You can arrange sample slots in former projects and copy banks if I remember well. Not sure.
I think I edited the project file with the new sample slot list, copying from old project.

To sum up, you need a good night and a lot of coffe, know what are file paths, use text editor…

[MXJ]

@Open_Mike @sezare56 Cool thanks for the reply. I guess I just don’t understand how people use the ot live without switching projects