RYTM > OT program change not working


#1

Hi,

Program change from AR > OT is not working. AR is master.
It worked for a few minutes last night and then I cam to studio this morning and its not changing patterns via program change.

I have:
AR MIDI config > Sync > Program change send on, transport send on, clock send on
OT MIDI config > program change rec. on, transport rec. on, clock rec on.

AR MIDI cable out SYNC A
OT MIDI cable in MIDI IN

It should be working… it was… I Have a live show next weekend and appreciate ANY help. Seems like a lot of people have had this issue too but Im not finding any solutions.

Thanks!!


#2

hadn’t noticed that

do you have AR MIDI set up for and going to DIN or USB+DIN and not just USB e.g.

Plus you say Sync A - You mean MIDI Out - you don’t have DIN-SYNC enabled ?! - you shouldn’t, that’s different for older rolands etc

also check cables

you won’t be able to sequence half of the OT’s 256 programs, but the first 128 on the first 8 banks should be addressable

so where(links) are these other people reporting this same issue ?


#3

DIN?

AR MIDI setup is for MIDI and USB at the moment. have tried only MIDI but that doesn’t work.
Yes - I mean MIDI out.
Checked cables, they fine, brand new.
I dont need all 256, I’d be happy with one right now!

Theres some threads about same issue with OT as slave or talking about ableton.


#4

Probably muddying the waters there - The Plug shape is DIN - i simply meant MIDI via DIN (not to be confused with DIN-sync which utilises the same plug/socket format but different wiring and protocol)

Oh yeah - So you’ve touched on this timing issue via those other threads whereby the program change is sorta lost as it’s cued somehow based on master lengths etc - all i’d do in your case is keep things simple by testing on short normal patterns initially (and AR only) and feed the output (even via usb midi) to a midi monitor on a computer if possible - then see when the message is sent (and of course if) - if those are coming when you expect/want, then work at it with OT hooked up - look at your AR pattern change mode too (Direct etc)

with simple patterns this ought to be straightforward - have you definitely still got the AR sending on the same Prg Chg channel that the OT is expecting - might you have changed this ? - it may be set to Auto on the OT - ensure that the AR is set to the same number that the OT auto channel is (or vice versa so they match)


#5

I have awoken and I am commencing testing! lol.

you reckon direct might be better?
yup program channels are same.

going to make new projects and send simple stuff.
I changed all my track lengths back to short to test initially but will try from scratch

cheers for input!


#6

OK I have it working: AR is sending clock and program change to the OT. Even though the midi channels were correct initially, I switched them around a bit and its working. dunno, anyway - for those out there who need this, this is what I have:

MIDI cable out AR to MIDI in on OT
AR MIDI config > SYNC > CLOCK/TRANSPORT/PROGRAM SEND all ON.
AR MIDI ports > Output to MIDI + USB works fine
OUTPUT Channel AUTO > IMPORTANT to make sure that the AUTO channel in on OT is set to the same channel.
AR Channels > Program change set to AUTO > AUTO channel in my case is 14

OT > MIDI SYNC > TRANSPORT/CLOCK/PROG CH all ON. (send is off)
OT MIDI CHANNELS > Auto set to 14.

Thats it. I change patterns on the AR and the OT patterns change too.

I did this in a simple project with matching 16 steps on each machine.
if there are inconsistent sequence lengths across the machines I predict it would PROG change at different times.