Roland trademark 808 and 303

Itā€™s not like Behringer is the only brand making cheap gear though

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Itā€™s called sampling. It gave us some amazing albums, but now itā€™s highly regulated (er, litigated). :wink:

i have no interest in clones (or even re-issues) but I must admit that Behringer clones are the best Iā€™ve ever heard. They are 99.9 percent accurate (based on comparison videos Iā€™ve seen). I actually have no issue with the vintage clones. Accurate replicas of old gear no one can afford to purchase or maintain.
Minimoog, 808, etc.

The crave is the one I feel is a sort of scummy business practice. Even so, I care very little for the struggles and frustrations of multi million dollar companies like Moog, Roland, etc. The company that provides you the best path to making the music you want, you should buy from.

With that said, I had a Behringer u-phoria 8-input audio interface. What a piece of junk. 250 for 8 inputs! Best deal ever right? I learned the hard way that you get what you pay for. Based on my tiny experience with a Behringer unbeatable-price-product, Iā€™m just afraid to buy their stuff. Iā€™m not sure Behringer will ever get over itā€™s poor reputation.

Thisā€¦

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Hey bro, youā€™re entitled too an opinion but face it. While youā€™re in protest, others will be making amazing music and enjoying these so called clonesā€¦

Good!

Iā€™m not ā€œin protestā€ though, just having a discussion, Iā€™m not really all that bothered about it all, which probably doesnā€™t come across in text form, no one has to justify their reasons for wanting these products least of all to me, but by the same token Iā€™m just saying how I see it, I donā€™t think my opinion is the only valid one either. You do you and Iā€™ll do me :wink:

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Fair enough :blush: I just think even you would enjoy this offering from Behringer, a company that just wants to provide something that no one else doesā€¦

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Roland is not big enough to take on Behringer and win. Behringer knows that

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They have before. And behringer settled out of court :wink:

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In a court, the people will not have the same experience in synths as us. Ask a random family member if they can tell the difference between a Tr-808 and Rd-808. Im pretty shure behringer nows that going to court can be a gamble.

Does anyone know if Roland went after 303 clones? Like the BassBot is almost a 1:1 copy.

They have. Even though everyone seems to have made this topic about Behringer, I think some of the smaller guys are gonna get hit by this too.

Yes they had to change the look of the Box, also the RE 303 box was made without replica Roland on the front.

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I think DIY options are not going to be of concern to Roland as it isnā€™t a big company behind them and it isnā€™t going to compete with Roland products since it isnā€™t available to buy assembled and most people donā€™t have the skill to build them. Also I donā€™t think it would stand up to legal scrutiny, in the same way that someone selling ingredients to make say big mac sauce wouldnā€™t.

I agree with you, but that also brings to mind the cool-looking eurorack 808 clone shown here: http://system80.net/product/880/

itā€™s not DIY, but it is open-source.

From reading the Roland statement, they sounds like they are going after everyone. Little guys and big guys alike. The arenā€™t just looking to put a stop to companies by flexing a trade dress patent. Their statement talks about companies using their SOUND and CIRCUITRY design without permission. Roland hasnā€™t abstained from coming after small diy companies in the past.

This could mean they are targeting eurorack companies, sample providers, diy kit providers, cloners, app designers, & vst designers.

just temporarily closed while we move all off-topic posts to appropriate forums.

PLEASE work to keep threads on topic.

Moving 38 posts (!!!) nowā€¦

Just moved 38 off-topic posts.

Please, the moderators implore you, stay on topic and revisit the guidelines.

Sure, a topic about Roland trademarking things will spill out to other companies, but when 38 posts that didnā€™t even reference Roland, or trademarking are made in the last 18 hours, itā€™s a bit obvious that the guidelines are being willfully ignored.

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