Roland TR-1000 User Thread

The dmux output is not shifted afaik.

oh of course. forgot that cirklon can only shift in one direction. multiclock can shift in both ways if your looking for a solution.

edit: i run ableton->multiclock-> ciklon. i wouldnt have a problem get the tr-1000 in sync with everything like this afaik

we have a multiclock in the studio, a friend has the inncerclock.
just for the record: both devices “solve” the problem without much hassle.

I think my “dissatisfaction” is more abstract: there seem to be a loss of skill and care towards these things. Roland’s MV 8000 also has filter and EQ per channel, master effects, and plays 8 audio tracks. yet it ~1ms latency (small enough not to have to spend time fixing it)

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Why would you? The TR-1000 has a lag of 7ms, right? So if one uses circlon as master clock, set all other equipment that has zero delay to 7ms delay and TR-1000 to zero.

Anyway, there are delays in sync since invention of midi. There are tools available since that. And if you’re in the studio anyway, you can even delay all of your audio tracks you are recording differently.

I understand that a delay of 7ms is relevant. I also don’t like the reportedly 20ms audio delay in TV for audio in. That is noticable when playing live.
But no sync problem.

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do you own a Cirklon?

ah ok. thats what i thought you meant. i just did want to make shure i dont miss something. thnks

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You’re absolutely right.

Better. ASQ-10 :wink:

Since using Elektron stuff and turbo settings, I never had sync issues (TV not tested yet in sync).

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the manual is missing quite a bit
it does even cover the midi setting section, most of the menu setting are missing from the manual

@Zum: same here.
I like that the Cirklon switches seamlessly between being the master clock and the sync to the multiclock ↔ Protools or Logic. The TR1000 sync lag now forces me to always start/stop using the mutliclock. But that’s a small price to pay…

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You sure you have the reference manual downloaded ?

There are two manuals , the reference has midi settings menu on page 43.

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i dont have a Cirklon. I own an MPC and about a dozen other midi devices that all play nicely together. the TR is the one that doesn’t sync up, is all.

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Is the metronome on all the time or can you turn it off on it ?

Does the pattern drop out if you change the settings to use the same kit across all your patterns?

Around 8:40 in the Deep Dive video.

On the TR8s I made that switch and my patterns stopped dropping out when I switched patterns

Page 26 of the 1000 reference manual

I honestly don’t see how this will make a huge difference for a dance floor when the underlying pulse is steady and the one hits where it’s expected. Especially if it’s landing on a beat that’s all about anticipation of the one. Unless you’re really going to be changing patterns every couple of bars, and even then.

Obviously not at all saying it wouldn’t be good to see it improved or an option to eliminate the gap altogether and take your chances with clicks or warbles.

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I have had no issues syncing with Ableton, my Osmose, Summit or Pro 3…I mean I am not analysing timing with scopes or anything, just listening to arps etc and it all sounds tight to me. I am using TR as Master with hardware using midi, USB for Ableton. I havent tried with my MPC or Electron boxes (may try Digitone later today)

@slic with the TR as master, you’ll be in good shape. That’s how I’m (reluctantly) working currently. the thing sounds amazing, thank god. otherwise i would have already boxed it back up.

So set as master you do have instant synced start with external gear?

To be clear: you are successfully using Ableton as slave?

I am using a nome 2 as my sync clock. Trust me I would not expect tightness if i was not, although I will say that my MacBook m1 sends the most steady daw clock of any computer I have owned.

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