RE303 is the closest to the OG soundwise
Youâre one of those people who thinks anyone who makes a statement needs to store up evidence in order to prove it to would-be doubters on the internet, arenât you? If you cared to know, youâd research it. I donât keep copies of data to backup everything I read or say. I donât have the specific âsourceâ for that information but if you care to know, 5 minutes on Google and youâll find it if you know what youâre doing. Regardless of my lack of evidence itâs a fact and Roland has made statements about the fact that they upgraded the ACB technology from the AIRA for the Boutique line. Specifically the ACB for the TR-08, 09 and the TB-03âŚ
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The modeling parameters have been updated, apparently. The modeling engine is still ACB. Sonic differences are minute. Not much point in debating this issue, donât you think? Have a nice day.
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Soundwise i like the TB-3 very much. I even accepted the touch screen interface. BUT itâs basically a preset machine. As such you get good results very fast and itâs very easy to use.
The knobs are not tight enough, something I truly hate. This leads to a worse overall picture.
Thatâs a pity, since the TB-3 can really sound very good.
Anyone tried the Doepfer 303 filter?
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I wonder if Roland would have said from the beginning that these boxes sound nothing like the original but are super fun and creative, would people stop being so critical?
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yes. Sounds good but you have to recreate yourself all the interaction between accent, filter, envelope and vca which is surprisingly more complicated that I thought. I have the x0x heart euro module too and itâs obviously much easier to achieve a proper acid sound with it. Itâs got its own sound, definitely acid but I woulnât call it a clone. With good modulation it can go where no 303 ever will.
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i think the criticism came them people expecting it to be an accurate representation of a 303 , roland claimed to have accurately modelled each component ⌠leading many to expect that it would sound the same.
same with the boutique .
theyâll claim the same if they ever do another 303 clone . and try to use the same disclaimer of âits old , not all 303âs sound the same blah blah blahâ .
if theyâd tried to market it as a âclassic acid style bass machineâ , they might not have got the interest in it that using the tb name has , but they couldâve at least avoided the embarrassing obvious failure of âaccuratelyâ emulating the analog stuff.
and i think the green + touch screen might have put more people off.
theyre quite cheap these days , i just wish theyâd also implemented easier/more widely used midi ccâs instead of sysex , its a pain to program fx and i usually had issues trying to get the free/paid for editors working⌠i got some things changing in midi designer pro but it wasnt worth the effort.
Different circuitry, different sound; indi outs and outboard processing make it apparent.
TB-03 and TB-3 seem to be good enough for DJ Pierre and/or whatâs left of Phuture. To each his ownâŚ
Not sure itâs a selling point though, but yeah, to each his own 
Thanks for the quick answer! Yes itâs more complex as i expected. I just tried to patch a complete 303, found out i need a logic module to switch between glide on and off. (
maybe I should use the A4 for doing the glidesâŚ).
I donât try to emulate a perfect 303. I have read different opinions about the doepfer 18 dB Filter. You think itâs worth to buy one?
The x0x heart as a gate input for slides. I donât use it however since my sequencer (pico sequencer) can do slides already.
Itâs worth buying the A103 if you donât already have many filters because itâs very cheap and useful (and well built), but I think you can achieve a TB-like sound with a classic 24db filter. I like the MI ripples too for this.
to give a (maybe) more interesting response, I had both (tb3 and tb03). I found the tb03 more faithful to the tb303, especially with accented notes.
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Sounds ok to me - Iâve no problem with what heâs doing.
Like you said⌠to each his own. I have a totally different opinion.
Yes thatâs why I asked. I got a Ripples Filter too! Absolutely lovely, and no volumen drop if resonance increases. Also a very powerful source for bass drums, especially if resonance is high enough that it self-oscillates. The other filter i got is the Morpheus, which is awesome, but sometimes almost to complex. But I definitely want another relatively simple filter, so I can use the Morpheus for the real complex sound.
to give a (maybe) more interesting response, I had both (tb3 and tb03). I found the tb03 more faithful to the tb303, especially with accented notes.
Thatâs good to know. The tb03 is very tempting, but 400⏠is kind of overpriced. If I see one for a fair price i will grab one.
the ripples tracks perfectly when self-oscillating, so you can actually use it as a sine oscillator too 
Fair enough. Iâd prefer the TB-03 to the TB-3 for the looks and lower cost. I think that vid you posted was made before he got his TB-03.
DJ Pierre comes across as somebody whose priority is get out there and get asses moving on the dance floor, and not sweat the details of the gear so much. I feel the same way - canât relate the fighting going on a bit earlier in the thread.
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Another point in favor of the tb03: interface ! no knobs are missing like on the tb3.
I didnât read the whole thread so I donât know what you refer to about the fighting, though I can imagine since this subject is usually very polarizing. Despite my user name, Iâm certainly no 303 purist. Iâve made acid-like sounds with almost anything from clones to samplers to modular synth. Heck, I even make acid bass lines on my novation ks5