Roland SP-404 Mk2 (Part 2)

Is this a response to the previous post or just a thought you are sharing?

I actually love that little encoder. And if you hold mark and scroll you can page through the samples.

It’s fun for me, but I also LOVE organizing samples. I got half a terabyte almost of samples now, and it’s very relaxing organizing it down to a manageable 359 gb of samples.

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Jack Handey’s “Deep Thoughts”

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I love this thing too much

I’m using a Bill Evan’s song as a sample.

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I really wish YT would allow me to watch an embedded video without forcing me to log in!

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Not unless you sign in to prove you’re not a bot!!

Exactly! It’s annoying and stupid!

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sample worthy dialogue

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ran some verselab synth loops through the 404 and did a handful of rounds of effects, mostly hadou, zanzou, and kodoma. and stacked the 303 sim/cassette sim combo twice, this tune got beefy. just a 8 bar loop of four or five different synth parts being brought in and out.

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hey! has anyone used the ext sync feature of the looper? I’m wondering exactly what the point is, as it doesn’t seem to quantize start/stops. Yes, it will play a metronome at the bpm of the ext clock, but if there’s no quantization of start or stop I fail to see the point.

what am i missing?

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NM: just researched how to make an aggregate device with my soundcard and 404. all gucci now

Hi,

Can someone suggest the best method to have the 404 available as inputs into ableton? I’m running through usb but I don’t want to use the 404 as an audio device and then have to change it just so i can get the input/outputs. Is there another way I can record and send audio through usb without having to change my audio device?

you can bypass bus 3+4, hold down value knob and press bus fx

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where do roland bug reports go. HOLD doesn’t work anymore while inside of EFX settings view :writing_hand:

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I’m having an issue. Not sure how to solve it.

My TR8S is filling up the undo steps, but no audio is being recorded

I was using my 404 and TR8s, and while having the TR8S run start/stop and clock, when I start the pattern on the TR8s and have a pattern in real time recording mode, the undo steps fill up. I think it might be a midi event of some kind that isn’t playing sound.

Anyone have a clue?

Hey :wave:t3: yeah, i saw this too. Great to see but i would love to have more infos how he use it in his setup. It looks like an older sp, right? Cheers.

@NearTao or @jemmons ?

I’m away from gear for the holiday, but I agree with your diagnosis. The TR-8 is probably sending some midi notes while running, and those are filling up the undo steps. Because there are so many bank of pads on the 404, it’s really easy for one of the empty pads in some seldom used bank to get recorded into a pattern and never notice it.

To figure out which pad, start the pattern playing and just browse to all your banks for a sec. The triggered one(s) ought to be flashing.

Or go in TR-REC mode and sub-pad-select each pad and see which now has active triggers.

Or plug the TR-8 into your computer to see what MIDI it’s sending. You might be able to see this in your DAW. Or use this. It’s a crazy awesome MIDI utility:

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I might look for either a Pad/Pattern for the SP404 mk2, possibly midi loop via midi thru… or other regular suspects that are causing a note to get send between the devices unintentionally.

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I appreciate both of you… Ill work it out !! Glad to see Im not completly off base!

Love you @jemmons and @NearTao

Its funny… I tried googling it, and the search is so trash that I didnt know how to word it…

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any luck? I don’t have a TR-8S so cannot try and reproduce exactly… but happy to try my best if you need a hand.

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Been playing around a bit with midi today. Not had the chance to set up triggering pads on the 404 from my Digitakt before now due to midi woes of having devices chained and it being a nightmare to plug and unplug things.

After setting up a new midi track in Live and routing channel 2 of the DT to channel 2 of the 404 while in midi mode B, I can see how this will work. After first timing was completely off, but using the ‘reduce latency while monitoring’ option I managed to get it to acceptable levels.

Receiving a CME midi routing and filtering device tomorrow, so I’m hopeful I’ll have things set up shortly so that I can work with the rest of my setup with less friction, and then when I bring my 404 to the desk I can just plug it in to USB and be ready to sequence what I’ve been working on away from the setup quickly.

Edit: as an aside, I remain totally frustrated by the Mk2 while also enjoying it. So many things just don’t work in a sensible way. For example, I take a sample, and resample it with a BPM set and a length of 2 bars. Resample, golden. Now I have a 2 bar sample at the same BPM as the track I’m working on, so I go into the pattern mode, enter TR-Rec, 2 bar loop, same BPM as what I just did, and lay down the resampled pad on step 1.

So now I play the pattern, and the sample plays every second go around.

I’m guessing it didn’t actually record it to the length I specified, and on the second go around it activates the pad of the sample and turns if off because it’s still playing.

To be frank, it’s a disaster of half implemented features that just happens to do a bunch of other things so well you have to put up with the constant stream of bullshit.

Second edit: On the flip side, I love making my percussion from field recordings and other samples, but I find doing the initial recording and editing inadequate on the DT and annoying in Live. Instead I’ve now taken to plugging in the 404 to my computer and using it as an audio interface, turning on Ext Source and letting promising live cam feeds or whatever audio I’m scrubbing through play. I hear something interesting, I wait a bit and then grab it using skip back, save it to a pad, and then later on go through each of the pads and resample out the individual bits of audio I’m interested in.

It’s such a good way of collecting source material.

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