I just tried sampling into it as steps to build a ‘kit’ from a drum machine… ie different drum sounds on one pad.
One really big problem with this (live sampling in step mode) is that it normalizes everything … that made my hats super loud compared to the rest of the kit.
So I might re-approach this by putting similar sounds in a single pad (instead of full kits), or maybe creating sliced samples on the computer and importing … but that honestly sounds like a pain.
Where this box shines is super quick sampling and playback. I also love the momentary method of turning fx on and off.
For me, this box is something to use, record, and then not worry about backing up / deleting. It’s too easy to accidentally modify something that’s being used elsewhere.
They did a great job with the basics, and this will surely whet anyone’s appetite for more once they start digging into it.
The only thing I can think is that it matches the spirit of the other compacts. I know that’s probably not the best way to word it, but the J-6 and T-8 have similar limitations. This is my own speculation.
it’s disheartening on principle, on the ableton move you can copy a sample to as many pads as you want and it takes up no extra memory and you can mangle one pad without effecting the other…
but that thing has 64 gigs of sample time… I would think that the less sample time you have the more autonomy you would require… I’m super sensitive towards developers visions however I don’t understand what purpose this serves on the P-6
the sample mem of the P6 isn’t an issue for me anymore…
the issue is the part I quoted… what part of any vision is if you edit this sample in any way it has to suffer that edit anywhere else on the instrument… for an instrument with no mem to spare, this is what I find disheartening
for an instrument with a gang of memory autonomy is no issue…
i honestly dont understand why it seems to be such an obvious problem, thats just not how it works here, its neither a benefit or an issue its just the way it is
you could say that about anything, and yet benefits and and issues do exist…
I’m not saying everybody feels that way…
the P6 is an inspiring instrument in my opinion… the lack of autonomy is stifling for no reason, also my opinion… I could make music on it but you can make music on anything… what I can’t do is make music on it without having to worry about a change I made to a sample being also made somewhere else I don’t want it to be made.
You can copy samples on the P-6 to other pads and edit each sample independent of each other. Changes on one sample do not affect the copies. They are true copies and if they aren’t, they function as true copies in practical application.
yes but that takes up space that’s what I’m saying… if the samples had autonomy you could use the same samples on 64 patterns and those patterns could sound different… check out the loopop clip I posted above, that’s what I’m talking about…
there are other samplers that don’t have autonomy for samples as well it’s not uncommon, but they have far more sample memory onboard or external storage for that trade off… the P6 is the first that I’m aware of that doesn’t make the trade off… they give you an extremely small amount of memory (no prob can deal with that) , but also restrict you with no sample autonomy…
It’s cool for anyone who likes that but I don’t want my patterns to sound the same just because I used the same samples, I’d like to vary the way they sound, it’s what I love about samplers… what’s the point of 64 patterns that have to sound the same based on the 48 slot sample set?..
it’s like a painter that isn’t allowed to create a particular hue of yellow by mixing red and green to different degrees, and all you can use is what’s there no changes… I get it, that that is the way it is on the P6, I just don’t get why you’d want it to be that way or make it that way without one of the trade offs to offset that design decision…
anyway it only annoys me this much because we are talking about samplers, if you stepped on my fresh white nikes I wouldn’t give a F
These tall micro knobs fit overtop the existing black pots
Thonk also has them
@captain8 I understand your frustration. You have the p6 by now, right? If so, do you think you’ll hold onto it? Is there any worthwhile use for it in your workflow?
I too find it very frustrating when these seemingly unnecessary limitations exist when there are very obvious gaps in the market that, if filled, would make a massively popular and useful instrument . But yeah, the p-6 is frustrating. I usually don’t hold onto gear like this, that doesn’t directly help me make music without a computer on its own. But it does feel inspiring and the sound design capacity is more than I’ve experienced on most other samplers. I’ve also never used an sp-404 though, or the 303 or the pocket operators. So maybe that workflow isn’t as exciting for most people as it is for me
It’s true though, in reality these are very frustrating boundaries that make working with it seem needlessly arduous a lot of the time
made a couple tunes in some parks today. i got a new chair because i broke the last one and its been an excuse to not make park tunes. its pretty perfect. only $4 at the thrift.
first one started off with the idea of a house-y vibe because i jammed with a friend last night with the p-6 and their circuit rhythm and we made some really fun house. ended up with something else with this one. just used the samples that were already on there and flipped em around.
made this one next to a duck pond. didnt have anything to record the last beat to so i sampled all new stuff off the mc-101 for this beat so the last beat’s settings wouldnt get changed. its a chiller of a beat
