Push 3 Users Thread

I hope they will finally open up custom graphics on the Push screen

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@frankk

Turn off ‘Select on launch’ under the Launch options in Record/warp/launch tap. Haven’t checked if this then applies to standalone as well but turning this off makes it so that the clip is not selected when you launch it and thus keep focus on the current selected channel and its controls.

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This thing sounds really great. And for free. Crazy :). Thanks @Ess and the rest of the Fors team !

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THIS, they NEED to do it at this point, is kind of ridiculous it’s not possible yet after years and years of Push 2

hmm, yes i tried buy doesn’t change behavior. Maybe try a second time. Thank you Dave

Anyone here tested the External Sync (beta) feature? Does it actually line up the audio to other synced devices, or does it have much more latency?

I hope to receive my P3S soon and plan to use it as midi clock slave, in parallel to my TR-8S, with Midronome as my clock master. Both will be mixed on a mixer, but I suspect the P3S will have more latency than the TR-8S and I’m afraid it will be pretty significant.

I could of course fix this by routing the audio of the TR-8S through the P3S and compensate for the latency, but this has some other drawbacks (mainly the fact that I want to be able to stop the Push and load a new project, while the TR-8S keeps playing).

I have this machine for 2 weeks now
In the past 15 y, I used ableton with midi controllers, maschine mk1 -> mk2-> mk3 -> +, elektron analog and digi

I need my a4 with this push, because I can find my sound with it

But all together, the push is the best sampler / mixer / audio editer / fx processor / performance sampler I have ever used

It is overwhelming, but after 30 hours with a few basics, it is just amazing.

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Any point in getting this if you don’t want to use Live like ever? But still curious about a one stop hardware music production environment?

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It is the most powerful and expressive portable music making tool available. Just consider the Live Lite that comes with it a software editor for the hardware and you cant go wrong :wink:

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Buying the SA version and never hooking it up to Ableton ever? Honestly no. The biggest thing missing right now to make that viable imho is the ability to map anything. You can’t map macro’s, midi control. nor LFO/env follower/shaper etc. (although there is a m4l lfo that allows this). When that is added to standalone it will be pretty unbeatable.

What you can do currently is get SA, and in Ableton live create your own groove box with your own limitations built in. Like 8 tracks, 2 LFO’s per track (there’s an M4L LFO device that allows mapping of destinations in standalone) for example. Each track with its own specific type of instrument, an EQ + comp per track etc. etc. This will require some preperation and designing, but potentially you can create your own awesome groovebox that way that offers pretty insane capabilities to boot.

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It’s odd, tho. I can make full bodies of work with the blackbox. But I keep hearing people saying you can’t, with the Push3. It’s not there yet. And so on.

Yet, I’m like - really?

So you’re telling me that despite all, it’s still missing core stuff that won’t allow me to finish ten tracks ready for release on this thing? When people do just that on Deluges, MPC:s and yeah, blackboxes - as in @stimming doing his bloody brilliant Elderberry album with the blackbox at its core.

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Depends on how you look at it. I can create a template in Ableton live that will blow the blackbox out of the water. Drag that to SA and never look at Ableton again and finish an album.

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But you’d still need Ableton for that?

I can’t just pick a synth or sampler or something, and go? Never touching Ableton, just the Push?

Of course you can. :slight_smile: You have everything available really. Maybe I made it seem like you can’t do much on SA. It’s super deep. It’s just that the thing that propels Ableton into wonderland is its Modular capabilities and to m,ake that work in push standalone we need to be able to map things.

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You have to remember that Ableton is/was a DAW first and push is build around that, in stead of a platform made as a hardware device from the ground up. But looking at Ableton’s update scheme in the past, this is just the beginning for push 3.

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I think that’s an interesting position for the Push3. I couldn’t care less about Ableton but I really like what the Push3 is doing. So many people who have an opinion on the Push3, come from the Ableton angle and its integration with Ableton and the ability to move between the two - which makes perfect sense.

At the same time, the MPC crowd hardly talks about the desktop version of MPC at all (cause it’s not all that good and no one uses it), it’s all about how the box fares on its own.

For an outsider, looking at the Push3 and listening to the community, I’m led to believe it’s just not that great.

Maybe an outsider should be the one to look at the Push3, Ableton be damned, and voice that opinion on it.

I smell a review coming up …

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Many ableton devices have inbuilt LFOs, which you can use normally. If you want to get basically unlimited LFO’s, you need the computer for that. So I would say it’s not a make or break thing.

This blows Blackbox out of the water re: fx, sequencing, sampling, chopping, arranging… no two ways about it.

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I spend an evening loading wavetable synth into a track, bunch of FX and sound designing some super expressive synths controlled with MPE. I really got lost. All on the couch without power plugged in. Just a headpohone.

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Yeah that’s certainly true ! Should have mentioned that.

Like the wavetable synth alone has 3 envs, 2 lfo’s, full MPE capabilities etc. That alone is a very deep synth all on its own. It has a big mod matrix as well which is fully available on push SA

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I mean, it should, right? That’s what I keep thinking when I look at it. Then I keep hearing “But it can’t do this” and “Until it can do that, it’s not really finished” and so on.

I wonder if one comes from my angle, where the OP-1 or the blackbox is adequate for full bodies, if this would just be like entering heaven.