Proper way to save so the OT is in the same state when I power it up?

I usually only save recorded samples from the buffers and the project. Pretty sure parts are saved with the project

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I thought this too. Can anyone (@sezare56) confirm that parts are saved when you save the project?

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:coffee: Parts settings are saved with bank files, that are saved with the Project. SAVING PARTS IS NOT AN ABSOLUTE NECESSITY! Saving project suffice if you want to reload a previous state.

Saving parts can be usefull in live situations to reload their settings, after messing, but if you do so, you have to save project at least once after saving parts, because if you reload a project, you also reload previous part state, and loose the part you saved. That’s why I never save parts unless I want part reload, otherwise there is too much saving actions.

Once you have saved a project, if you only changed a bank, you can save the bank only. The saved bank is reloaded with the project (or can be reloaded individually). It can be interesting in certain circonstances, like reloading a specific bank without reloading other banks. Worth a look.

Saving recordings is necessary if you want to keep them. I usually choose Assign to Free Flex, or Free Static for long files.
You have to select corresponding slots.
If you choose Assign to Self, buffers are not empty at startup, it can be annoying if you want to record something else.

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exactly. I assign them to self usually cause I‘m lazy, unless I know that I have to record something else in that project.
In my liveset I do a lot of resampling, but I never have to save the recordings cause I overwrite the buffers anyway with each new song

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Another thing worth checking - a flashing “x” in the sample slot list will mean that the sample was edited but has not been saved, if so navigate to it with arrow/level encoder, and save it by going into audio editor and saving at the file tab, either save sample copy or save and assign, don’t change name and it will ask overwrite ok? Hit yes.

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Ideally you would get into saving parts after getting familiar with saving (and assigning) buffers

I would also get confident with what saving a project means first too

As for parts, there can be pitfalls:

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Related question for the OT experts. I’m only using a single Part per Project (and often only a single pattern), so as long as I save my buffer recordings and save the Project itself, I have no need to ever save the Part as well, right?

Yes. All parts settings are saved with banks which are saved with projects.
Saving bank would suffice if you use only 1 bank.

Can be used musically though.
Mess with settings > reload.

Can also be used with Page Randomize ( Page+Yes) :
You need to save part to reload previous settings (Page+No)
Otherwise you reload default page settings.

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Ok, here is what I don’t get.

Before I made this thread I had trimmed a sample and saved it. Then I chopped and mangled with LFOS…etc. That trimmed sample was indeed saved. But when I powered off and turned back on, the chops I had made were gone and the sample was not loaded into track 1 anymore. I had to go into the track pool and select the trimmed sample I saved and then rechop it.

Obviously I don’t want a repeat of that since I tend to find happy accidents once I start P locking and adding LFOs everywhere.

So how can I preserve all of that so when I turn the OT back on, it is the exact same way I left it?

Normally nothing to do for that.
You can make a test. Tweak everything, turn off, turn on : same previous state.

I don’t know what happened to you, but at first I had wtf moments too.

Safer to save project, and for an important project eventually SAVE AS NEW + SAVE just after. Better to save as in case of corrupted bank on the card.
Happened to me, my card was full and maybe needed to be formated or “defragmented?”

Was sample in rec buffer ? Did you save Sample Settings ? (TRIM / SLICES / ATTRIBUTES settings can be saved in a .ot file)

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Hmm interesting.

I have formatted my card so that seems ok.

I did save sample settings I think. Anyway, I will try again and see what happens.

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Did you record the sample on a track recorder or load it into OT?

If the former, you need to save and assign the sample (assign to free flex/static) to one of the slots, better practice than assign to self IMHO.

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I have all my tracks as flex. I will double check and do all those things now as Im working on a project today.

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Recordings are part of Flex slots, so it doesn’t tell us if your sample was in Flex Recording slots (before slots 1-8).

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This confused me…haha. Damn, this is the stuff I don’t fully grasp.

I can tell you now, when I double click track 1 - it does not highlight a recording slot. It goes below those 8 and highlights the sample I saved to in slot 1.

Ok here is what I have done:

Sampled a break from a record and some synth stabs into flex tracks 1 and 2. Saved and assigned the samples to free flex spots ( went to 1 and 2)and also saved sample settings for both. So now the names for each sample show up when i press track 1 or 2. I then mangled up each sound - sequenced, effected and LFO’d them., plus made 1 scene B so far to slide into. I again saved the sample settings.

I hit save all parts and then save project. I am going to power this off and hope for the OT to open tomorrow the same way I left it.

My plan after this is to make more scenes and possibly another part as well so I can live jam this when i’m ready to record and keep it evolving over 4-5 minutes. So hopefully I am on the right track here. Fingers crossed!

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Tomorrow, no problem. But it last only 24h. :pl:

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@BassesAndPads

I wrote this up on another thread, may be of help?

Oh yes…this is awesome. So each part is a totally new setup essentially?So in Part 2, I could record a new take on my synth into a record buffer and put that into a free flex spot and it would go to track 1. Then I could switch back to track 1 and the first take sample would be playing with all the chopping/lfo FX I put on it.

If this is all correct, is it also correct that part 2 could have totally different effects and scenes than Part 1 as well?

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Yes, but the stage about save and reassign to flex/static is what frees up the buffers for your next part, if you don’t do that you will record over the buffer contents.

My advice would be start a new project and follow what I wrote and try it out to get a feel for it, once it sinks in (and it can take a while, it did me at first) you always remember it, like riding a bike :wink: