Polyend Synth

Actually it was this one.

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I think the big thing people need to understand is that Synth is not a groovebox and if you approach it with the expectation that it should be or might be some day, you will likely always be disappointed by it. Think of it like any other instrument, such as a guitar. When you set it down, your songs aren’t there and likewise when you pick it up, you have to play it and bring those songs or jams back into existence every time. If you need a record of what you have played, you will need to bring Synth into something else or pair it with something that can help capture those moments, so anyone looking for a single box solution would be better served looking elsewhere. But it you are the sort who likes to just get lost exploring a sound sometimes and wants something more immediate to just start vibing off of, I think Polyend have really nailed it for that kind of approachability.

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Push 3 still cannot do this. Neither could Push 2. It’s strange to me when manufacturers leave this option out!

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Good to know. FYI I’m on 1.01 and everything seems ok, except for the delay indeed.

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Do you think the cord note follow harmonization will also translate over midi?

if you are asking if the follow on the device works when MIDI is sent into the device. Then currently the answer is no.

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That’s disappointing but I’m talking about the other way around. If I’m controlling an external synth with the Polyend Synth will the external synth harmonize with the cords played on the Polyend?

Ah i see. Yes that actually works, but only if all the MIDI parts are sent from the Synth of course (as your external device wouldn’t have a clue what to follow :laughing:) . For example:

  • Section 1 is in Chord Scale, Chord or Chord Pack Mode
  • Section 2 in in Follower Mode

Section 2 will follow Section 1 and thereby send the correct/followed Notes out via MIDI.
This can either be played manually or be a running Arpeggiator or Sequence.

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Great!!! That makes this device way more interesting for me. Thanks

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How did you find the interplay between Tracker and Synth? With (some of) the synth engines already being on the Tracker, I can see how a dedicated device for that can be nice. But is it just a case of more voices being the advantage, or is it also the free-er way of controling the synth on the extra pads etc?

Definitely nicer to control for sure, as you got the dedicated knobs which are missing on the Tracker. This alone is awesome to bring more livelyness into your performance.

You could get around that of course on the Tracker, if you got an external controller that could be mapped to the macros for the existing synth.

Purely just to have more voices? I dunno if that would be worth it for me. I would rather resample synth parts on the Tracker then.

But you have more engines of course. It’s nice to have a more powerful granular engine, as well as a souped up wavetable engine. And yes - of course the Physical and Phase Distortion Engines are super nice as well, but i personally am a sucker for granular and the wavetable engine. I’m particularly fond of the new wavetable engine.

  • 2 Wavetables at the same time
  • Can mix between them
  • Each wavetable can change it’s position indepdendently
  • Each wavetable can be wavefolded as well

That’s a lot of sounds you can get out of that alone (and yes, you can load your own wavetables of course).

I think if you are a OG Tracker user, this would make a great addtion. If you are a Tracker+ / Mini User. It depends if you just want more of everything or if you like the new engines or more performance oriented playability (maybe you even want to play parts live with the pads).

It’s at this point unclear if those new engines will ever make their way to the Tracker+ / Mini. They are more demanding and i don’t know if they could be optimized to run on those devices or if they would have to be simplified.

What we do know though and Polyend has said so themselfs. We will see more engines at some point. If that means for both devices or if each device see’s something differently?
I have no idea.

Hope the novel i just wrote up here, answered your question somewhat? :laughing:

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Yeah it does, I always find it interesting to see how folks use these things for real and in combination with other devices. Looks like it’s the most playable of the devices so far, which is interesting. Adding playability to the Tracker is something I’ve seen folks do by pairing it with a controller, but if there’s a controller from Polyend that serves that need you’d think they’d work pretty well together. Consider the Tracker has no real macros, being able to programme that and then play Synth might work well, even for Tracker+. Interesting, thanks!

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Getting my Play today…will sequence the Synth with that. With the random and chance stuff on the Play and the LFO’s and modulations on the Synth…and then taking that output into my Befaco Oneroi…going to have a super fun time this weekend.

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What do you mean? The Synth on the Tracker+ has macros as well, which you can define yourself which parameters they affect from your synth. It’s actually one of the coolest feature i believe. Each Macro can be 5 or 6 synth parameters that can be affected. You can control those either via Step FX, Directly on the Peformance Page or via MIDI CC (they are exposed through the perfomance mode).

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Does anyone know if the decksaver for the tracker and play works with the Synth?

I guess I will find out today as I have a Play with a decksaver coming…just checking so I can order another today if that is the case.

I would assume since play / tracker / synth is all using the same shell i believe.

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Yes they do and so do the cases. They are all the same size (the devices).

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Ah yeah, what I mean is it has no actual/physical macros/encoders. So it can be fun to have a controller with Macros alongside it. The Tracker for programming, the Synth for playability (I suppose Play also somewhat could work in a similar way also). Basically that companion piece you mentioned before.

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Just checking : Aftertouch from an external source doesn’t seem to work, does it ?

If it is regular aftertouch it is currently not supported but on the radar.
Polyphonic aftertouch however should work.

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