Sh*t I can’t do this either because all my delay and other time based effects are stored for this tempo. a dotted eight would have to become a dotted quarter, which might be a problem…
Overdub is possible with Flex, a recorder can record it’s recording and inputs > overdub.
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ok, I’ll have to dig in there then… is it also possible to set the recording length manually with the flex? so I can hit record with my footswitch, and hit it again for playback with no predetermined length?
Yes with these settings (rec quantized).
QREC 16 = 16 steps rec quantize.
Maybe PLEN (pattern length) is too long if you want trails only.
For overdub with Flex, AMP VOL has to be set at +63 (or +12, not sure). Not super easy to setup.
I posted it somewhere!
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All right, I got it to work like this:
- monitor AB on 127 in mixer page
- inputs track x to AB and cue (with the track being cued)
- One shot record trig (arm for record + arm again for overdub)
- playback trig microtimed 1 notch backward
I have to be in record menu to arm the one shot record trig. Is there a work around for this? I also made work with normal record trig’s, but then I have to delete the trig after the overdub, which also is in record menu…
Is this the easiest way? Or is there some more tricks to make it behave like a looper? The only thing I miss is undefined loop length, but I can live with that.
You can arm One Shot with YES, Grid Rec off.
A trick I found : use patterns. Go back to previous pattern undo. It records all the time, change pattern to stop recording. Defined length. Realtime monitoring with fx (DIR not needed)
Pattern 1 :
T1 Rec trig + Flex trig
T2 Flex trig
T3 Flex trig
T4 Flex trig
Pattern 2:
T1 Flex trig
T2 Rec trig + Flex trig
T3 Flex trig
T4 Flex trig
Pattern 3:
T1 Flex trig
T2 Flex trig
T3 Rec trig + Flex trig
T4 Flex trig
Pattern 4:
T1 Flex trig
T2 Flex trig
T3 Flex trig
T4 Rec Trig + Flex Trig
Pattern 5:
T1 Flex trig
T2 Flex trig
T3 Flex trig
T4 Flex trig
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Awesome! Very cool trick. Will try tonight 
I also have my midi foot controller arrive today, I was thinking if I can use this to ‘footally’ press quantized track record. Then I only need to press once for record and once for overdub.
I try to keep it as simple as possible in the OT because I use a lot of improvisation on tracks (this is where I need the loops) and I can easily do very different thing when I play a song twice…
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I can’t! 
As I use several recorders for realtime mangling I need to find a specific workflow.
I think we’re getting of topic. Maybe Flex with Overdub is more appropriate?
What is your foot controller?
Off topic indeed… I order the source audio soleman. It has different modes, switchable with an auxiliary switch. One mode is for presets of my midi pedals, and another mode can assign any (and multiple) midi parameter to the switches. So in there I can setup cc notes to control the OT, and in the first mode select presets. All in 1 pedal
But this is off topic too.
On topic: I found 2 solutions for the initial problem.
1: double your bpm so it’s in the 85-170 range, if you’re not syncing external gear with dotted eight delays or stuff like that…
2: use a muted master pickup track and set tempo back to normal. Make sure the dummy master is playing before recording other pickup machines, and only if you don’t need overdub.
1 is pretty obvious, 2 seems a good idea, not ideal.
I have a 3 with Midipal / Midibud, which can divide / mutiply clock tempo.
Hmm never went into that territory. Have to check that out! So I can set the OT to 140, and this thingy will convert to 70 which is then sent to all my other gear? This seems to be what I need!!!
Yep. Maybe RK002 or other midi processors can do it too. Midipal as several build in interesting functionalities, such midi dispatcher = 1 midi channel per note > make Octatrack poly, midi delay with pitch / feedback…
Checked the rk-002 and ordered
You saved my workflow! Many thanks for that.
Too bad the rk-004 is out of production, this would have solved e few midi problems in 1 box.
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I got an answer from Elektron for a ticket I sent regarding this issue… and behold option 3:
If you set RLEN in rec setup 1 to a number value (for example 64), and PLEN on rec setup 2 to the same value… it works!!! you can record your first (master) pickup machine at 70 BM, and it won’t change the tempo after looping overdub works too
so drawback is you have to pre-set your loop length, and maximum is 64 unfortunatly. but it works.
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Cool will try t out.
Good to know. Could you also try to disable timestretch in Attributes (after recording maybe) to make it work?
Maybe a tempo change needed after recording…?
I don’t understand… are you talking about pickup machines?
Yes, Pickups. Apparently, if you set Playback Setup > Timestretch Auto and set Attributes > Timestretch OFF, after recording, you can theorically get original tempo.
@polite_society pointed that, I think it’s an interesting possible workaround. I can’t test unfortunately, if nobody do it I’ll do it, but I work too much to find the energy for that.
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yes, but you can do this only after recording and after bringing the tempo back down.
it will still double the tempo initially after recording the loop… so for playing live this is not an option.
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Yes of course not satisfying, but I was thinking about your project with DT.