[ PDF Tool ] Tuning Table for Analog Rytm


#93

Hello @MaximJazz
As we already discuss in this thread, i don’t know if it’s changed with recent firmware updates but it seems BDHD, BDCL and BDFM was the less accurate machine regarding tracking in terms of Key. If you need something more accurate everyone suggest BDPL, BDSH and BDSI.

That said you need to understand few things and your message is a bit confusing to me. as it goes in too many directions. But i will try to do my best.

First thing first : it’s a good thing to tune your kick in the key of your track (or in specific harmony in used) if you want a kick with a long release… Because the tail of the kick is sustained longer it can clash with other notes (bass notes etc…) - Something to have in mind is if the Kick is vey short and compressed or sidechained tuning the kick will have less effect than a very long sustained kick (like a 808 kick coming close to a bass synth because the release is long) and it may shaped to taste and dynamic rather to key note. Usually taste and hears must be the final judgment.

SO if we refer to the BDHD model machine you mentioned and when you need more informations usually refer to the end of the user manual to find for a dedicated model its controls (it’s vary regarding specific machine)

BDHD, in the “Tuning” section I set the note A (-2)

According to my table -2 is A sharp and not A, A is -4
Pay attention you are in not on the chromatic mode on the Analog Rytm. You selected you first voice BD1 and assign the BDHD model. Then in the Synth section (normally there’s nothing in Sample section but you should be sure you put it at zero so no sample is playing on top of your BDHD)

In the Synth page if you just want to tune you use the TUN parameter to set the pitch of the oscillator for sure. But if you don’t know Sound Synthesis and not really your Analog Rytm i suggest to understands prior to tune and shaping how this BDHD works before. The most simple for that is sort of reverse engineering the sound design. If you click on rotary knobs you will have the values set for the BDHD, click on TUN you will have a value, SWT (Sweep time) a value etc… You can write those value on a piece of paper so you can coming back to default then. (or you can reload the machine too)

I suggest Two things in terms of tuning to key. First it’s more easy few octaves higher to hear better what you do because in lows energy are moving a lot and in a spectrum it’s very hard to see a precise peak. In my tune table that’s what’s i’ve done. Next, you should kill the kick shaping to come more close to the fundamentals of the BDHD machine synth instead of the BDHD Kick sound design made by elektron. So i would kill the Sweep, Snap, Tic - i would set a short hold, i would make the Decay longer to hear better the TUN when dialing in… And i will stay on the purest tone on WAV parameter the Sine value is 0.

Then dial the TUN down and up, you will hear the synth going down in key and up in key. Use the value of my TUN Table and you should be close to what’s you looking for. If not as i said before try instead : BDPL, BDSH and BDSI. and see if it’s tracking better :wink:

That’s should help you to start… Then TUN with value of the Tune table. If you want you can pass audio through get signal under your DAW and use something like Ableton Spectrum or anything Spectrum giving you frequency range and their associated note/key

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When you set the tune you can restore every other value to default… Get the Decay to taste and the Punch you want. When you TUN is set it’s done. But if your Decay is too short, you will have difficulties to tune the machine that’s for sure. The longer you can hear the fundamentals of the kick body without punch (Sweep, Snap, Hold and Tic) easy it will be be to hear and feel the TUN in action.

The change of FRQ and resonance …, they have nothing to do with notes and do not change the root note

Of course but i don’t spoke about that, the TUN Table is relative to TUN Synth section when editing the machine. FRQ and RES is relative to the FILTER and unless you have in mind self resonating feature of a FILTER, those parameters as nothing to do with TUNING your drums.

If BDPL, BDSH and BDSI not tracking as per my TUN Table. Try first to play a pattern for some time until the machine is Warmer… It’s analog so… And see if the TUN table match better with the TUN


THEN maybe you can contact the technical support and ask if a re-calibration is necessary ...

13.8.4 CALIBRATION
Calibration will start the calibration routine for the oscillators and filters. After selecting this option, a popup window asking to confirm the calibration will appear. Press [YES/SAVE] to proceed with the calibration. Please note that the calibration routine takes quite a while to complete.

Please note that during calibration there will be loud and unpleasant sounds on the individual outs. Disconnect these during calibration.

Analog Rytm is factory calibrated. It should not be re-calibrated unless specifically stated by Elektron Support or if prompted by the machine. Before calibrating, it is important that the unit has been turned on for at least two hours to attain working temperature.


#95

First, thanks for what you do! Thanks for your help.
I learned the instructions pretty well.
The fact is that my A RYTM now completely misses the right notes.
Your table shows that the note “B” for the BDHD drums is 0, but I checked that +1
BDCL +1
BDFM -1
If you use my drum machine, then your table is not correct, it is wrong by +1, -1
Calibration was done 3 times, as written in the instructions.
I can’t understand what to do, change the rytm or look for a problem…


#96

Every machine is different and as it’s analog it’s vary… Technical support would told you that… as far as i can say and expecially on kick and these first series of machines the gap is not huge … SO make you own adjustement table based on your rythm :wink:

The table is not a precise measurement of your machine but mine and it’s perfectly fine and normal as it’s analog there’s slight difference and to me +1 is a slight difference. use you hears !
But honestly your rythm is perfectly fine. the tuning of the drums must not be something that locks you up or blocks you … If my Tune table not corresponding exactly to yours … Dial the amount so it’s in Tune for you that’s just the way it is -