Don’t you think it’s a pity that the elektron devices with OB function don’t have the pan control - i.e. it can no longer be operated as soon as the device is controlled with OB and the DAW, or as soon as a channel with a track from the device is created in the DAW? But panning is just so thoughtful with the locks parameter.
could electron probably solve the problem?
It depends if the channel audio signals are mono or stereo before the tap to OB.
My assumption is that they’re mono on all the devices (except the OT, but that doesn’t have OB). If this is true, then it follows that the pan control affects the mixer setting near the end of the signal flow, rather than a balance between two signals feeding into the mixer. I also assume that OB gets tapped before the mixer (as you’d be using the DAW to mix).
Maybe Elektron could change it on the all-digital ones? I’m confident they can’t on the analog ones. It’s likely that they also can’t on the digital ones because they probably made some kind of architecture decisions about how it would be put together, to make development and building the devices consistent/efficient. But I am seriously guessing now.
that would be so great if that worked. it’s a shame every time you sit in front of it. my only solution here is the cc control. but unfortunately the rytm (my personal favorite elektron) didn’t get a cc control.
everything works, except for this one more than important controller 
But as the saying goes: you can’t have everything.
Do you mean that you hoped the Rytm would output a CC for pan, or that it would respond to the pan CC from the DAW?
so that you can control the cc number from the DAW yourself on the rytm. Digitakt, Digitone and also the OT can do this e.g.
That’s strange. The Rytm manual lists that it “uses” CC#10 for Amp Pan. It’s not clear to me whether that’s send/receive or both.
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the individual controllers with their CC numbers from Rytm can all be controlled with the DAW, that’s no problem at all.
But the problem is that as soon as the rytm runs with the DAW, i.e. with OB, and a channel is created with the individual machine in order to assign external effects such as plugins, the pan control on the rytm itself no longer works. So if I swing the pan control on the rytm, the signal does not respond to it. only the internal effects of the rytm react to it.
that means that only the panning can be done with the DAW, i.e. the channel with the machine.
the channel from the channel with the machine from rytm has a pan controller, you could assign this to rytm via cc, provided that it allows it. but as said, rytm doesn’t allow it.
another example that is easier to understand would be controlling external synthesizers with the digitakt or diegitone e.g. since these devices allow cc control, one could e.g. assign the cutoff from the external synthesizer to the individual trigs as you like, that’s the fun effect and incredibly creative.
I still don’t understand why elektron doesn’t allow this for the most expensive devices. A4 can’t either. and even as mk2. no idea if that is a sales philosophy.
isn’t it because every individual out is mono? at least on rytm it is, the pan applies only if you send it to the main outs which is stereo, the ins are stereo as well, but every track is mono by itself
Because it is sending mono signals over usb, not stereo. Individual tracks are mono and you can pan them in the machine at the mixing stage. But the signal is send to Ob before that mixing stage. It might be a bit confusing because the pan parameter is located on a parameter page together with other AMP settings. There’s nothing to pan when it comes to OB. Needs to be recreated in daw.
It is unfortunate for sure but I’m sure it has a good reason, for example maximum bandwidth at which OB can run smoothly. And the fact that panning happens at the mixing stage.
this is an interesting aspect and that will be the reason. Thank you!
but then hopefully elektron will at least implement cc control in the rytm and in the A4 one day, surely that doesn’t have to be rocket science for you.
This is exactly what I said upthread. Sorry I wasn’t more clear.
actually the DN sends stereo individual outs, I’m not sure about other digis but DN individual outs are definitely stereo.
Indeed.
Was just about to post that. It’s the only one.
This is why I suspect limited bandwidth. As it’s only 4 tracks it’s possible to send it through OB in stereo.
Are you hoping to pan the signal going into the Rytm’s effects, as well as in the mix in the DAW, but only use one system (either DAW or Rytm) for sequencing that pan information?
6 tracks including main outs and ext in, but yeah it could be the reason, the rytm is 10 including main outs and ext in, so does the DT right?
but A4 should be 6 as well, so probably the tracks on A4 are analog mono and works like the AR where it sends the pan to main outs, not necessarily because of bandwidth but that could be the design.
I know. I meant audio tracks. The inputs and main outs are stereo on all of them
@+all It’s nothing to do with bandwidth - it’s simply that the ADC is located before it is panned !
There is nothing to be done with this ‘restriction’ for obvious reasons folks
My though was that bandwidth was the reason ADC was not placed elsewhere. But as you can see hardware design is definitely not my expertise 
reason being it’s to serve as FX send
