This electronic sequencer is simply unbeatable for me and that’s why I really like using it, rather than the DAW.
If you are then in the flow and build patterns on the rhythm, then the trigs are particularly important here, to which you can assign all parameters of the rhythm. If the pan control could also be operated in this way, then you could build very extensive patterns and then record them separately in the DAW with each individual track, which is super cool. But as soon as I have to do that with the DAW (after the fact), also automate the pan control, the flow is gone. (also please allow cc control, electron :))
no way around it, recording individual outs will be mono on rytm, the only way to preserve panning while recording individual tracks would be record solo’ed tracks from main outs.
if you do a little planning ahead, some elements would be mono either way, say kick, or bass, or snare. so you can take only the mono channels from individual outs and record the rest as stereo, you can still do a lot of processing on that if you look at it as a single bus, but the things matter the most would be recorded individually and you’d have more control over them.
I always kept panning as usual on the machines and monitor though physical out. Then recreate any panning in daw, with tremolo plugin, lfo or even automation if needed.
FYI - Bandwidth also wasn’t an issue at design … the device technically has the bandwidth (and ADC’s located suitably for sends) to easily cater for that …
… there was an issue with USB noise bleed, so the USB Bus had to be throttled back from 2.0 speed to 1.1 speed to alleviate the issue (subsequently fixed/isolated on Keys, Mk2)
It would be nice if there was some automation where overbridge took the mono tracks, turned them into stereo tracks in the daw, and used the pan parameter from the device to pan the tracks.
It is total bullshit that the panning isn’t transferred via OB. The fact that you can go into the hardware and make a full song, with tons of panning automation/lfos/plocks/etc., then when you try and multitrack it via OB, it’s all lost, is a goddamn shame.
It has, unfortunately, rendered OB completely useless for some of us.
not sure - i think the DN is just different ‘because’ … doesn’t it require two DSPs, maybe they had a bit more ambition there (especially if only 4 tracks to begin with) - maybe the voice allocation algorithms benefit from it 8 outs - but for whatever reason it’s an outlier (i wasn’t especially aware of the distinction until @DaveMech et al mentioned above as i don’t much care about OB)
Maybe it was set up with the DNK 4x2 outs in mind - i was a very late adopter of the DN, so didn’t tune into the chat at the time
my gut reaction is the total ‘streamed’ channel count is a factor
sorry, I don’t understand this part, I tried looking at the previous comment as well but I don’t follow, are you trying simultaneously control rytm pan from daw and midi controller?
or do you want to control external gear with the rytm encoders?
not an issue, it’s not that easy for me to explain it either, because english isn’t my mother tongue.
I’ll try it very briefly: it is possible to control any controller from the DAW via the machine with DN, DT and OT, because the machines mentioned allow CC control.
This means that you can assign the pan control from the channel of the DAW to the machine, thus avoiding the problem. he can p locking with the pan is possible without any problems.
the cc control via the device would mean much more. you could also edit the effects etc with the p locks without having to automate everything in the DAW in a complicated way. it would be a symbiosis with the machine.
so you mean midi tracks? yeah there’s no such thing on the rytm, the midi out capabilities are very limited, but imo it was never meant to do that.
I mean, it’s an analog synth and sampler, maybe it’s not the best midi controller/sequencer, and probably never will be.
yeah I understood that… again, not what rytm was meant to do, basically it’s more of a live performance focused, so while other machines have some advantages they also lacking where the rytm is strong, trig slides, mutes, pads, etc.
you can’t have everything in one machine, just enjoy the rytm as is
