Oxi Instruments E16 MIDI-Controller

So on push encoder you can’t set value, it’s just on/off, which can be set as press only, press and release or toggle.
If you set two knobs to 25 for one and 75 for other on same cc(cc74) they would just jump depending on which one you touch and move.
Both push and regular jump to value that they are set on when you touch them even if they are using same cc without influencing other.

I hope i understood what you wanted to know.

Just looked at their discord and apparently sync option is in works and coming.
Also new manual pdf is also available on their page

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Thank you so much for taking the time to check that. 🫶🏻
I think it’d be possible but not as I intended.

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hey guys , getting to grips with it. how do you do negative ccs ? To bring Fltr ENV from +4 to -1 is what im trying to do … it is not clear how to do that :frowning:

Cc’s are always 0-127, so my guess is that 0 is at CC 63. So 67-62 is my guess :smiley:

You can set both the display and the LEDs to the bipolar view under the display option

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thanks!

I am not sure if this is a bug but I zero out the filter on my digitone 2 when I go into any scene (setup or not) and have to reload pattern from temp to get back to normal. Even though I have the knobs default and minimum values at right level. anyone found this? Makes the device unuseable if exiting and entering between scenes in a gig

another issue maybe someone could help me on , is I have a grouping setup for a scene that requires one knob to be fully activated , with 2 others at zero , with a forth grouping control knob turning those two up while turning the other one down … right now i can only get this to work if I go into the scene and manually first turn up the knob to full

Parameters are pattern based in digi boxes so once you switch patterns it zeros out to the pattern saved settings , also elektron boxes (besides the ocatatrack) do not do real bi driectional midi the closest you can get is when you touch the encoders on the elektron it will send it’s corrisponding cc out the midi port so you can get it to update like that. anothor way to get what you want is using perfomance macros (breath, mod , pitch bend and velocity) map them to knobs on you oxi e16 and they stay as they are even when switching patterns , each macro gives you 4 bipolar parameters of your choice from each track as you set them up on . so you can set the midi channels as groups lets say by midi channel in the elektron midi settings and having macros on all the channels you want effected than set that cc number to your encoder on the oxi and you can control stuff as you perfrom this way and with automation recording on the oxi you can get octatrack like transitions .

the only thing you cant really solve is the midi jumping i havnt got my oxi yet to check but see maybe you have pickup mode where the parameter doesnt move until the encoder reaches the spot it is in the pattern .

also somthing i wanted to test is maybe have like an “updating preset” where i record a small movment of the encoder that need updating on in a begging of a pattern with the oxi recording function and get the midi back using the midi in on the oxi , but it’s only a thought havn’t checked it out yet waiting on selling some gear to afford it

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Could you not have a trigless trig on first trig of pattern setting the cutoff etc and have the trig set to only play first. Would that then send the correct cc back to the e16?

Does the e16 receive midi feedback now?

Not yet. It will with next update.

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what is that? two way communication? turn knob on elektron , values change on oxi?

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Yes

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Does this come from developers and their discord?

Yes it does :wink:

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yeah you could , but that means putting the triggers on internal and external for them to update the encoder and than working with external gear becomes difficult due to midi feedback you can solve with cme hubs or midihub by bloaks or a bomebox to filter out and change messages . or group tracks so it wont take up 16 midi channels as this is the maximum channels a cable can carry . this stuff is on the edge of what midi 1.0 is capble of this is one of the major reasons midi 2.0 was done every cable will be bi-directional and with 256 channels instead of 16 . that will take a while to get to actual products MPE was invented like many years ago and only now seeing more adoption in the mainstream. so none of the elektron boxs support it and i am not sure if it can be done via firmware updates so it will most likely be only a in future devices . if you want a hub that supports it though bome box does it plus midi on wifi/ethernet so with a pc/ipad that is a flexible strong router that can possibly solve it. all depends on you setup the less devices makes it way less complicated.

i am trying to run like 3 elektron boxs an mpc an sp404 mkii , 8 synths and an ipad . so for my routing the triger is a no go if i want to sequence other gear with my elektrons

the only devices i have seen that can solve it in one box is the DROP controller but it is like 800$ before shipping , i guess for a reason there isnt really a substitue for it having snapshots , automated snapshots , many faders and knobs , cv and 4 in-4out with an a-b switch and usb host/cv stuff so you can save all the other boxes needed and prettty portable for what it is . you can have like 3 digi boxes and a whole in out channel for other synths

I’m still deciding whether to pick one OXI E16 or not. I wrote to the guys at OXI about the encoder resolution per step, but stil no answer. Can someone who already owns it tell me how many clicks it has per revolution?

The dented one goes 30 clicks for one complete revolution. So it takes 4 full turns + 7 clicks to go to CC 127. This is default. You can change the division of the encoder in the app to require more clicks/turns of the encoder to go to 127. Like 15 clicks to go from CC0 to CC1. Or go the opposite way and have it go to CC127 with one full turn but it jumps by 3 or 4 CC’s at a time. Not sure what the resolution is on the non-dented encoder is.
Is this the info you need?

Hi! Thanks for the info. I’m looking for the non detent version, which I think it should have more steps per turn …

Hi, I’m new to midi controllers and looking at this to pair with a Tonverk. I see that each encoder can be assigned to two cc parameters. Can the encoder control each cc independently or are they linked? I can’t find an answer to that and was wondering whether that might be done via the shift control or somesuch. I’d like each page to always have eight volume/level controls for the Tonverk tracks and I’m trying to figure out if that means that I lose them for other purposes or if that can be a secondary function for each of those encoders? Thanks.