The variphrase tech from Roland is patented. Only Serato is on par.
So you’d need pro tools with serato pitch n time or any roland with variphrase tech (MV, V-Synth, VP9000)
But it since the release of the vp9000 20 yrs ago, RAM became cheap and multi sampling became more common, so no one really cares for variphrase technology anymore. The market is prob too small to invest in research for a new algorithm
My excperience with Octatrack:
Drums come out muffled
Pitched down drums sound like 4-bit pooh.
With some tweaking and modulation it sounds “great” for anything but drums.
Our creative approach can often lead to surprising new outcomes. Which again goes beyond the original purpose and brings about other interesting unknown territory.
About patented is just a given, in case of the morphing and variphrase techniques Kyma stands head in shoulders above the rest.
Honestly i don’t care if the Octatrack sounds pristine or not because i like lofi sound in general. But Stimming who is a pro heard a degration in sound. So did i when i used the Octatrack. Here (at 29:09) he talks about it:
And when he used it live several times he always had the timestretch on? He even made the effort to let it play through a computer on stage to polish the sound of the OT. Do you think it was all because of the timestretch? I don’t know.
Not sure, the time stretch can be a bit hit and miss depending on material and the settings, if using to bring loops within -/+5-15 bpm of tempo it can be pretty acceptable, if wanting to abuse it for extreme stuff it can be useful, if left on by accident on one shot short sounds it can sound pretty crappy if you change the pitch of the sample, especially with default settings.
Yeah, i don’t really want to argue. I like the sound but just found it interesting that he said he doesn’t like it. And i have to say that i like these long threads about audio details. I learned a lot from these discussions. Even if they’ll never end.
@Supercolor_T-120 thanks for the test !
I’d have prefered wav files, also more convenient. I listened with my computer and its cheap soundcard. Both files were pretty noisy with artifacts, very similar to my ears.
File n°1 seemed slightly brighter to me (high frequencies of course).
Concerning timestretch, I usually don’t use it or like it on any gear but just to mention on OT it is absolutely neutral at the original tempo (has to be EXACTLY the same, OT master). Tested with null phase opposition.
Seem useless in this case but you can use it with drastic changes with RATE = TSTR , up to 6400% slower, and keep good quality at the right tempo.
Isn’t it useless to say it’s useless to talk about OT sound quality? What’s the problem if people want to debate about it endlessly?
Once again, a lot of blabla without audio examples, apart a few people I thank again.
(Ok I didn’t post a sound comparison myself yet, but I already posted many audio examples of OT).
