I’m not long holding (or even double tap) should be removed, I just want a single press to switch between pages (just as it is on the Digis)
Right now, a second single tap does nothing.
I’m not long holding (or even double tap) should be removed, I just want a single press to switch between pages (just as it is on the Digis)
Right now, a second single tap does nothing.
hmm on OT mk1 once an option page is open a tap on another page opens that options page, if no options page is open then tapping on a page switches to that page. Is that different on mk2?
Scene use on midi tracks would indeed be powerful but has a technical reason it was not implemented. Imagine 5pages x 6 param = 30param x 8 tracks = NOTE,NOT1,NOT2,NOT3,PB,AT,CC1,CC2,CC3,CC4,CC5,CC6,CC7,CC8,CC9,CC10 = 16 midi values x 8 tracks = 120 values constantly changing on a serial (midi) stream. You would have difficulties to not disturb the basic functionality for all 8 (in example sending clock tick in between)… because …
• MIDI clock resolution: 96 ticks per quarter note (common MIDI resolution)
• 120 BPM (beats per minute)
MIDI Tick Duration:
• tick_duration = 60ms/120bpm x 96PPQ = 625/96 = ~6.51ms/tick
Transmission Time of a Note Message:
• A NoteOn or(and) NoteOff msg (3 bytes) at MIDI 31250 baud rate: actuall valid only with on & off = (6 bytes)
• transmission_time_for_one_note = 6 x 1/31250Baudrate = 192µs
Available Time for Messages Within two Ticks (assuming they follow constantly, which they do in reality not, because baudrate means a grid of pulses [bitpattern] and so might not perfectly fit on the grid. …means are send before or right after a “baud” which is what is called jitter):
• subtract transmission_time_for_one_note from tick_duration:
• available_time_for_messages = tick_duration - transmission_time_for_one_note
= 6.51ms − 0.196 ms = ~6,318 ms
Maximum Number of Note Messages:
• divide available_time_for_messages by transmission_time_for_one_note
• 6,318ms / 0.196ms = ~ 32,90625 msgs (6byte noteon+noteoff)
See the limitation? And 300bpm round about half of that 15msgs. Would mean you can send either notes or CC or just one tracks data but not all when you expect to not produce more jitter than technically needed (without forced slowdown of receive-able ticks). Not to mention thru messages that have to pass on that same serial stream.
With USB that is a completely different ball-game cause if no Midi baudrate has to be followed then 1041 msgs would fit in between two ticks. (PS: also explains, if i where math guru at Elektron i would simply wait for the MIDI 2.0 specs to settle to a final specification properly tested and implemented and only then strike with an MK3 and change the game for sure)
For the Circlon’ists it manages round about 16 different data curves per stream, doesn’t it? The above math explains why.
ps: notice myself, thnk twice. In the time domain a note message goes either on or off, not both at the same time. So its ~ 64 msgs possible between two 120bpm ticks. But considering a pitch change needs closed notes and the shortest note is one tick long we are back to square one… lol. 32msgs
You can access them with Func+page button, but I guess you’d want a simple tap. Edit : simple tap you want.
I got used to Func + page, but a simple tap would make sense.
Imagine 24 lfos running full speed.
The ability to assign only lfo’s depth to scenes would be enough for me…as you can set speed 0 to a square lfo, this would allow to modulate lfo dest with crossfader.
MIDI
modulate lfo dest with crossfade.
makes indeed sense because technically we do that by manually turning therefore applying hand made LFO.
Ability to disable auto-save !
‘Mute’ muting trigs instead of track audio so you don’t get the ”ka-chunk” of audio being cutoff. The Digi boxes are like this.
Make it a global user preference: ‘Mute’ trigs or ‘Mute’ audio.
Dumb little request but would be an excellent quality of life thing
(yes, I know the arranger mutes trigs but then you’re forced to use the arranger)
What shortcut would you use for mute trigs?
Reload Part?
That is a terrible headache at times, impossible to properly mute a track within the arranger until the sequencer hits a new trig…
Just make it a user preference in ‘Settings’. Make the behavior either mute the audio or mute the trigs. The latter is the behavior on Digi boxes. When you track mute it’s just muting trigs so note tails and such just trail off. On the OT, track muting mutes the audio so it immediate cuts off audio. Muting in the Arranger does the trig muting behavior but it’s only in the Arranger.
Having it as a user preference maintains the existing behavior but let’s you select the new behavior.
Oh I see, so you mean the Func + T1-8 mutes?
If I wanna keep FX trails i always use scenes with AMP Vol.
That needs to be pre-programmed though. A configurable mute behavior would be better solution IMHO and not one that the OT doesn’t already support in the Arranger.
+1 for mute trigs option.
Another workaround for this is in play free mode (activating/deactivating track mutes trigs after set cycle), but why not have it directly as an option.
Another thing I would love to see is utilizing more led colors of OT mk2. I suspect this would probably cause some issues with MK1 compatibility, but wouldn’t it be nice to have more feedback/information via colours?
What about pattern mutes like in digis? Perhaps even mute trigs in sense of programming sequence and then turning some of the trigs OFF (blue led?) And unmute them at some point. I know there is a workaround for something like this by turning them into trigless trigs I believe, but I find it confusing and limiting using only 3 colours green, red, yellow (and dim green) and unnecessary when we have the unused potential and hardware ability of OT MK2.
another +1 for the option to mute the trigs, not the audio.
Sure. Seems doable as you can mute trigs in Arranger, but probably a lot of things to rewrite…
A kind of workaround with Play Free tracks indeed, but there is a quantize limitation for start / end, and you have to add trigs to stop longer samples.
Btw a synced Play Free Track mode would be great : play trigs where they are in the sequence compared to other tracks.
(I found a midi workaround with oneshots, PITA but can be fun)
Yeah sure, or reload project actualy. Just need to get that to be executed automatically when OT starts
Yeah i really miss the mute trigs behaviour of the newer machines. A project setting or track setting to change the mute behaviour would be amazing.