Recorder source selection options for pre fx so if you then played that recorded sample on the same track it would sound the same instead of getting fx doubled.
T1P (for pre) or something like that
I could not find back the diagram for the audio signal path in the OT but iām not sure if the recorder is able to record Pre Fx hardware wise.
you can tell CUE to not play fx, guessing here cause i did not test right now, and then capturing the CUE which in my theory should give you recording without fx. Can we confirm thatā¦^^ guess notā¦ cause āPreview without FXā is not the one, still plays the FX, but there was a way.
CUE is post fx. Preview path is independent. Not affected by SRC and AMP except VOL.
Btw even with Preview Without FX option, it is affected by Lfos having SRC and AMP as destinations.
Would be possible software wise, but it doesnāt seem possible to record a track (SRC3=T1-8) pre-fx.
You want to resample a FLEX/STATIC track with SRC3=T1-8 without fx ? Please elaborate if it is not the case.
In that case, possible using a dry track with Neighbor track for FX, or make an FX send via CUE, and use a Recorder + Flex playing CUE as āFX returnā.
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Is there really no way to trigger a track recorder via MIDI if that track is using a MIDI map mode other than standard? Because thatās a massive bummer if so.
Got some tracks that are using chromatic or slice modes that I trigger with a keyboard/pads. Was planning on using a foot controller to start/stop recording into the buffers but that appears to be impossible unless I change the MIDI map mode to standard, and then I canāt trigger them chromatically or hit slices. I can still arm track recorder trigs but thatās not exactly ideal.
Not sure if Iām just missing something but it feels like a big oversight not having the ability to start recording via CCs into a track, which should allow you to do that in conjunction with chromatic/slice/etc MIDI triggering.
Not sure if this helps but as a workaround the recorder doesnāt need to be on the same track as the playback. Use a recorder on a different track to record the track youāre interested in.
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Iād love an indicator for record armed when using QREC thereās currently no indication that your input has been acknowledged. A flashing pixel or something where the + goes would be great and a flashing + when youāve queued end recording perhaps. The lack of feedback is super confusing.
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In general thereās not enough feedback on the device for various things, thereās a lot of partially hidden states that can happen that makes the OT a bit tricky to understand initially. For an OT successor I think Iād really like to see Elektron move to a new generation of bigger higher-res screens so they can show much more info.
A big part of octatrack for me is creating chains of one-shot samples using octachainer or similar, then opening them in a static/flex track, turning on slice, and you can use one track as an amazing drum machine with n one-shot samples. It gets really creative when you go beyond drums, with chains of one-shots, too.
I would love it if I could prep my sample chains more easily inside the OT, rather than on a computer.
Two ideas of how this could work.
One is by selecting a load of samples - perhaps highlighting a range in the sample list - and then an option to concatenate them into a chain, which would also appear in the list. I say this, because at the moment, browsing and loading a lot of samples into the static sample list is pretty nice: itās a shame you have to do func-yes to audition, but basically, you keep hammering the arrow keys and all is smooth.
My second preferred way would be an option to say ātake the n samples after this one in the current folder, and concatenate them to a chainā. That would allow whole folders to be quickly chained.
Lastly, I realise that I can make chains manually by importing eg 64 one shots to the sample list, then painstakingly laying out a 64 trig pattern, changing each trig to a different oneshot from the list in order, then slowing the tempo, then slicing that with a grid, then saving that output and using it as a chain. Iāve done it. Itās slow!
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One more since Iām here.
I love chromatic mode, where the trig keys turn into a keyboard (even tho the samples can only go one octave up or down).
But I wish it could also support scales, like many other Elektron devices do!
Coincidentally youād get two octaves on the page since most scales are 8 notes!
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Ha okay last one.
A pattern chain on the OT cannot contain the same pattern twice.
This limitation seems odd and unnecessary. Itās unlikely to be computational power. The limitation doesnāt exist on elektron digi boxes, so itās unlikely to be ideological.
I realise that Arranger exists, and I like it, but itās less immediate than pattern chain.
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It would have to change name then 
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indeed: ( ) == MASTER-LENGTH
A(16) | B(16) | B(16) | C(16) is same as A(16) | B(32) | C(16)
but
A(16) | B(16) | A(16) | C(16) can not be achieved with clever master length you will have to use ARRANGER instead.
No surprise, the Arranger supports 8 different arrangements which can be loaded/saved/chained in each of those you are free as heck to sort the patterns you want, actually more precise as pattern chain would allow. Yep you figured that out. Apart from that, with a little nerdery you could force chaining with SPP aka Program Change Messages as long they are send to the OT in time of the running pattern to define which pattern should be next.
Edit: momento, the more i think aboutā¦ what if Arranger would be able to go ahead one valid row or back (excluding REM) by MIDI command. We could program a liveset with properties and follow the arrangement like a Ableton set, row per row on purpose (the moment we can do that by selecting the row and hit YES). Now imagine one more weirdo (likely impossible) feature to allow playing Bank1 Track1 and Bank2 Track2 in parallel (cause Scene-clash thats a no-no)ā¦ uuhh sweet sweet liveset, endless possibilities.
PS: isnāt it funny coming up with a feature request just to figure out it kinda is already there just needs a second, third and so on OT. Gosh my bank account
Holding a trig with locks should highlight the pages that have locks on them in the same way that scenes do.
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It would be nice if holding a trig with a sample lock and pressing AED should open the locked sample in the AED instead of the track default sample.
Likewise if trig has a locked slice the locked slice should be visible in the AED.
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When in MIDI mode, trig buttons 9-16 should be able to trigger the default MIDI note for each channel. Just like you can trigger samples on audio tracks.
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A master fx settings page (not via track 8) like the MPC 1K has would be great. Just with EQ and compressor/limiter.
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quick way to clear all parameter pages for a single track, have suggested super copy in the past, but even just this alone would be great.
[how it could work:
Hold the track button for the track you wish to clear, then press clear. Currently this seems to do nothing.] Nevermind, this is already the method for demoing a tracks sample including its parameter settings.
currently I either clear the entire part, or clear each parameter page of the track individually by holding that page and pressing clear.
If any one knows of a faster way to do this please let me know!
Unfortunately that would not possible without altering an established button combo and possibly breaking workflows people have developed over the yearsā¦ Even though it would be in line with the other boxes.
While your idea would be consistent with how things work on the Analog Four and the Rytm, what you refer to as āclearā is ultimately a secondary function of the Play button.
From the Octatrack MkII manual: ā[TRACK] + [PLAY] trigs the sample assigned to the machine of the track.ā (I think this includes the AMP envelope. Not sure about LFO triggers and other stuff.)
Changing something like that at this point would probably do more harm than good.
I donāt believe the Octatrack can ever reach full UI consistency with the newer boxes without a major redesign.
So, manual clearing of individual parameter pages is probably is the best way to go for now. Youāll quickly have it in your muscle memory.
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Thanks, Dolphins! I was mistaken, track + play does have a nice use, looks like that does include the LFOās as well. I didnāt intend to suggest replacing an existing function with a new one and agree that would be messy.
Yes, Iāve been using the 10x button combo for years now, which is to page clear 5 times. Not very elegant though, I think a new combo would be useful.
All together this adds to the case for a supercopy menu.