New Terminology for Midi

I win

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How long before attention turns to male/female power cables and the likes…! :joy:

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Totally agree

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lead/follow

Wow, someone flagged my post, who was it? At least tell me why.

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What about :

MnXqQ!§/¨^Kmn0?ù

…Hoping that inhabitants of planet /°° will not be offended.

Language is and was changing constantly, so why not change for obvious reasons? The term slave is the culprit, as in mankind never was a good thing. As we know, words turn to thoughts and maybe turns to attitude. So where is the problem to rethink such terminology in our electronic music world? I would welcome such a thing.

The discussion about awareness in our language is widely spread, but i guess the most people argueing against those language awareness are having some problems with change in general, are not able to think about theirselves as slaves and having fear of loosing some privileges.

Midi Host -> Midi Client
why not stay technical on such things like devices communicating with each other?

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wow,…didn’t intend to “increase racism” i guess i’ll just STFU from now on sheesh

Though I am glad to see where everyone stands on this. i did not intend on being offensive.
it was just a thought floating around in my mind

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FWIW I fail to understand why this “increases racism” and I don’t think you have any reason to STFU.

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because nobody is actually offended, but pretending that someone somewhere takes offense to the terminology so therefore we must change the terminology makes people think a group of people are offended - thus making one group of people think bad of another group of people.

Like who seriously was offended by the term blackboard that much it had to be changed to chalk board?

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Prediction:

within the next 10 posts a moderator will be required to break up this thread.
As will be the case when someone posts that we need to say “XLR that identifies as Female”

If someone has trouble gettin MIDI/SMPTE to sync, they can ask for technical support and use whatever term they want and hope to be understood. Posts for the sole purpose of changing the world with no technical or artistic content tend not to work. Even if 100% of Elektronauts agree to say Protagonist/Antagonist instead of master/slave, it will not change the industry or the world but it makes for shitty threads on the forum. People are labelled, people take personal offense and the world and it’s slave population (past and present) are none the better for it.

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Can you tell us about this equation?
How can raising awareness about language terms which are clearly abusive can led to racism?

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You read my mind.

I dont give a shit what people call it. One machine is master/leader/commander/controller/transmitter etc
The other(s) are slave/follower/receiver etc.

Machines. I repeat… machines.

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I was not offended at all.

I just think it is daft and unnecessary, personally, I’m quite ok that you have a different opinion on it.

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now this is some fine adjustment :slight_smile: (instead of calling it sh*t before)

Do you not think that that Master Slave for Midi were thought of purely as a technical description?

Language evolves on the basis of popular usage ; but very seldom do enforced changes from authorities take hold or last. Take for example the French Revolutionary Calendar, or more recently, the French Academy’s attempt to introduce the neologism “baladeur” in an attempt to replace Walkman. The ban on the printing of obscenities in the Soviet Union only served to make the banned obscenities more potent.

Your argument suggests Grace Jones should rename and change the lyrics (or simply erase) the track below

I mean what next cancel “Slave to the rhythm” by Grace Jones, or cancel the band Slave?

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Or this may work :

F’lougg/M’lougg

But the problem is that my B’lougg won’t d’lougg with my t’lougg anymore.
And that, will upset my oven.

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yeah, but slavery as such was / is def. not thought about some nice communication between devices

How is this relevant to the current discussion ? The OP is not an authority imposing a change. (Or did I miss something ?)