We really should consider changing that terminology we use here in the music producing world regarding MIDI and the whole “Master/Slave” relationship.
Can we come up with something that feels better please?
Irks me every time!
any thoughts on how we could accomplish this?
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Primary/secondary?
With MIDI 2.0 our instruments will undergo a cultural revolution!
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Dave smith, one of the inventors of midi, has started using alternate terms for this on his products.
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Boss / employee, General / soldier, Politic / citizen, any terms reflecting a hierarchy will fit i guess
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In total agreement and it’s certainly gaining steam
As protests against systemic racism swept the globe this year, there have been calls by some photographers for ending the use of the terms "master" and
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Reaper ( ) updated theirs to Lead/Follow
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You beat me - came here to post the Peter Kirn CDM story. His breakdown is thorough and includes a lot of other great options.
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bibenu
February 3, 2021, 6:17pm
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What should we do about the term ‘mastering’ a recording ?
EDIT: I withdraw the question
The term master on its own you don’t have to worry about. It’s associated with mastery, master classes, master copies, master bedrooms, the antiquated practice of calling young men “masters,” Masters’ degrees, uh… MasterCard. Not one of those terms originated in the practice of slavery. (I checked.) If you master the bassoon, you did not enslave your bassoon. So people will still get this meaning.
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Joe_b
February 3, 2021, 6:22pm
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I think it’s the slave part of the equation that bothers people. The title/verb “master” does not need to be eradicated. Mastering a craft or mastering a track harms no one.
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Pitcher/Catcher - baseball reference??
im sure someone might find it offensive so its very hard to come up with something safely in todays world
i wasnt aware theres already been a movement im just late to - Awesome!
Clock source and clock follower work well, when you’re specifically talking about timing
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garf
February 3, 2021, 6:45pm
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Ableton Live switched from Master/Slave to Leader/Follower in 2019 (Live 10.0.6)
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konputa
February 3, 2021, 6:57pm
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Thinking about modern day slaves and wondering if they’d preferred to be called a follower, citizen, secondary, etc.
G0n35y
February 3, 2021, 7:07pm
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This thread reminds me of the time a former work colleague took offence at me for using the phrase “nitty gritty”.
I’m never going to win against the cancel culture world we’re in though so a shrug of the shoulders from me and moving on…
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wickfut
February 3, 2021, 7:11pm
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It’s a technology term used throughout multiple electronic devices which communicate with each other.
It’s not going to change because you take offense to it.
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bibenu
February 3, 2021, 7:12pm
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I already thought about that (git repos) … but for some people, master on its own is not seen to matter.
The nouns used in MIDI 1.0 are “transmitter” and “receiver” and are perfectly adequate.
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Lauli
February 3, 2021, 7:18pm
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Hah, I tend to have this vague sexual image in my head with the combination of the terms master/slave, rather than… workhorse slaves.
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catchy1
February 3, 2021, 7:19pm
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dom and sub?
consensual of course.
edit: fin25 won!
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