Any chance Roland continue the JP-8000 line of products in 2022 or someone make a clone of the JP-8000. I love the sound of the 8k
At this point I would honestly be surprised if Roland didnāt have the JP-8000 queued up for a future boutique release in the next couple of years.
JP-8000 was my first ārealā synth. Not only was the sound great, but the performance features were also special.
- RPS (sequences triggerable from incoming MIDI)
- split mode where notes played on one half ātriggerā notes held on the other side (or over MIDI, if I recall correctly)
- split mode, in general
- the arp <3
Probably more Iām forgetting, since I sold mine about ten years ago.
Iād be (pleasantly!) surprised if all these performance features come along with any boutique edition. e.g. I was really hoping the boutique TR-09 would retain the External Instrument Mode over MIDI (which was great for triggering RPS on the JP-8000 from the TR-909!), but nope.
Behringer just recently announced the jp-4000 which is meant to be a mini jp-8000ā¦
It all depends on if Roland thinks they already re-released the JP-8000 in the form of the Jupiter-80. We might see a clear difference, but the engineers/development team might not think the way we do. Whatās weird is that the JP-8000 was, at the time, somewhat considered a modern re-issue of the Jupiter 8, for the electronic dance music community.
Boutiques of boutiquesā¦itās getting weirddddd
But JP-8000 was such a rad synth, I wanted one so bad. I even had a poster in my college dorm room in 1998.
āFresh not cannedā if I recall correctly?
That poster hung in the 1990ās era āyou are not allowed to touch the synthesizersā local music store.
Isnāt the System 8 already more or less the modern day JP-8k? Multiple āSuperā waves, better build quality, less aliasing, more filters (and a separate high pass), has a sub osc (but lost the second LFO).
I could see maybe a Roland Cloud unit/Zen Core expansion, and maybe a boutique JP8080 (letās aim higher than the 8000), but to rerelease an entire synth with what they already have would be pretty dim. Maybe buy a System 8 and redo all the LEDs with cyan lighting?
The problem with JP8 clone is that the Supersaw osc contained in the DSP chip seems to be something no one has been able to really reverse engineer with any certainty. I have owned the real deal and done many tests and comparisons to other similar synths.
The bottom line is that a combination of:
Amp Output + Chorus & Delay + EQ section + Supersaw = A very distinct and particular sound.
Itās a combo of all those parts, so even if you manage to emulate one part of it ( Usually people just emulate the Supersaw ) it doesnāt sound anything the same. Especially the chorus. Though, the filter and plucky envelope shapes are probably the easiest thing to emulate. Iām not convinced Roland would even do a good job with a Boutique if their Zenology platform is any indication.
Oh yeah, and as for the other sounds of the JP, like saw or feedback osc etc, nobody really cares about those. IMO nothing to write home about as the main strengths of a real JP is in itās classic/O.G. Supersaw sound and itās utility as a live performance keyboard.
hehe speak for yourself! = )
I love that feedback OSC. Back around 1997, watching the idol of my teenage years (å°å®¤å²å) run the JP8000 arpeggiator at a live concert and tweak the feedback osc was a formative moment for me!
Best thing about JP is as a live instrument. The easy layout, ribbon, abundance of gate and arp presets, phrase sequencer. Lightweight synth easy to transport. Works very great for live.
I actually also really love how the dual part split/layer system works. Super fast and easy unlike many synths where you have to faff about in menus. Nothing super special but the JP is a sum of itās parts.
Now if only the internal capacitors and components werenāt a ticking time bomb. It would still hold up today.
Speaking of which my Analog Keys screen is barely clinging to life.
What about the V-Synth or the SH201 and an alternative?
Both have a proper supersaw oscillator.
Guessing the architecture of the V-Synth is a bit more advanced but the Cosm filters and FX are very nice sounding in that synth. Disclaimer: Got the V-Synth, played an SH201, never used a JP8XXX.
There are lots of great alternatives. I havenāt personally used the V-Synth or SH⦠But you can get similar tones on pretty much anything.
Iām kind of obsessed on Supersaw type tones and try to make them with everything. Pretty much just jam saws together and put it through chorus, unison works too.
For a mono type sound pretty much indistinguishable, but once you start stacking chords that ring out, āmockā Supersaws sound completely different. JP has a more āDisorderedā sound to itās voices due to a highpass filter over the low end and the fact it starts the osc phases in the stack at different intervals. Where many other Supersaw oscs on other synths have a symmetrical detuning sound that feels more āOrderedā
I mostly use my Virus TI or Nexus for those type of sounds now, but everything lacks the buzzing, bright crunch of the JP Supers. Even my friend who doesnāt know anything about synths noticed the difference while playing in my studio.
I bought one after seeing Numan using one live. Great synth. Mineās been inn storage for a bit, and needs a new battery (which means disassembling the PITA case).
So, supersaw guru :), Iām in the market for a synth that can give me a decent supersaw, but my budget is ca. 500 Euros. What would you recommend?
Hydrasynth Explorer, super modulation with great sounding filter emulations.
Supersaw is a bit phasey on the hydra - i love my hydra but iād rather go for a minilogue xd with a supersaw oscillator
Edit: as in also buy a supersaw oscillator for the xd
What about an SH4D? Havenāt tried one myself but Iām 99% sure I saw a supersaw waveform in a youtube demo. I have seen a couple pop up used on Reverb.
Iām pretty sure the mc101 has a supersaw as well but the programming looks very menu divey/boring.