Live creates another file when you hit the reverse button, so probably not. Don’t think it’s even possible to automate that button in the desktop version. You can do it inside Simpler/Sampler though.
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I think this is the heart of the matter…I use multiple DAWS and have a slight preference for Bitwig over Live…but I still use Live a lot with my PUSH 2 as a pseudo hardware instrument…I work just on the PUSH 2 so limit myself to the the suite instruments and fx.
I always thought ‘if this was hardware it would be the best groove box on the market’. Now it is (my standalone on order!)
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i wonder what OS is inside standalone Push 3.
Linux
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Just played around with Parameter locks. It is a little bit like on Digitone and Syntakt but without Sound-Locks. And I would love some m/nth locks but I can also just double the pattern and add/remove a few notes to get the same result. I didn’t tried a single prametwr on synths and audio fx, that didn’t work, but I used it to get an idea done and not to try everything and find missing ones, so there could be some.
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I don’t use sound locks at all on Elektron devices, apart from percussive days on the Digitone before I got a Digitakt/Syntakt. To me sound locks are a bit of a result of hitting track limitations. I would say you can be less conservative here. For use cases where you specifically want several distinct elements under one track, using and making your own kits would be the way to go.
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Yeah, you have enough tracks no not really care. Sure with those PRE etc locks you can do some nice things with several samples etc. but I never really used it. Just wanted to show up, what’s possible
I think the comparison is more like if, for example, the Analog Rytm Mk II had ditched the song mode or being able to layer samples onto drums, from an already established template. Or when the Digitakt originally actually did the ‘no song mode’ thing - there were certain expectations from the previous Elektron workflow that the machine didn’t have, and people weren’t happy!
Sure, there’s a good technical reason why VSTs won’t run in standalone mode on a Push 3, but it breaks how most people have previously used Ableton. I’m sure they’ll adapt (as others have said, you can do pretty much everything with the stock plug-ins) but it’s not a spurious complaint in my view, nor is the loss of arrangement mode. Brains need a bit of rewiring for the limitations!
The thing with arranger view is that it gives you the freedom to move clips around virtually gridless. Implementing this on push which is very much focused on a grid based workflow, will be pretty tough to do. One can also wonder if it would really be a pleasant thing to do but I guess that’s up to the user.
It got me thinking though that with the mpe pads it would actually be possible to drag clips around in a virtually gridless way.
The biggest hurdle to take would be the zooming. You have so much resolution. How are you going to virtually represent 3 regions within 1/16th of a note on the push pads?
The follow action method seems more plausible really. Hopefully they’ll implement that soon because that’s a source of creativity on itself.
In any case curious what the future will bring 
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That would be nice in standalone mode, yes.
What about in controller mode with Live - I’m asking as someone new to Ableton: if you jam in session view with the Push hooked up to Live and running in controller mode, is is possible to record that jam into an Ableton Live arranger? So basically, can you record a jam session and then have the flexilibity of tweaking things after the fact to turn that into a proper/finished song?
It’s really great to learn that it’s similar to Syntakt here. I must say that the step sequencer on the Push seems really well thought out. It’s like the best of Elektron and Circuit Tracks combined into one device.
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yes it is possible. From the manual:
" When using Push in Control Mode, if Arrangement View is in focus in Live, pressing Record on Push will toggle Arrangement Recording on and off. While Arrangement Recording is on, all of your actions on Push are recorded into the Arrangement View.
You can also trigger Arrangement Recording while Live’s Session View is in focus by holding Shift and pressing Record. Note that this behavior is reversed when the Arrangement is in focus; holding Shift and pressing Record will then toggle Session recording."
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I wonder if Ableton could look at how the Deluge implements its arranger mode and see if there’s anything from there that they could apply to the Push 3.
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my (very) bad, you’re actually right. I might’ve compared a72 to a lesser i3.
though the point was there’re fast enough ARM cpus, and the entire RPi computer is sized like a NUC board alone, not fair to compare them to start with, as another poster did
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I want to buy push 3 controller mode only…delivery time in Germany 6-8 weeks…
If thay GAing me, they have to deliver the dope
It’s worth mentioning that there are some key differences with Elektron plocks that you can’t really get around since step automation is really just editing the automation lane on a clip, which comes with its own restrictions
- Ableton sequencer has no notion of a trig, so when you do step automation you’re basically just making a change for the exact squares on the sequencer lane that you have held down. This is unlike Elektron plocks which hold their value until the next trig. Eg I have a four to the floor kick patten: on Push, if I hold down on the second kick to increase the wet amount of the reverb, that reverb will cut out again the moment that 16th note has passed. On an Elektron it would be open until the next kick. So you have to hold as many pads as you want the duration of the plock to be.
- Moving a control that has step automation on it is not like an Elektron at all: you’re basically telling Ableton to disable the automation because you’re taking manual control of it. On an Elektron once all your plocks are down you can move the parameter to choose a different neutral value for the non-plock steps. You can’t on a Push. This is a more significant workflow disruptor than the first difference imo, and the main thing that stops me from using step automation. I’m kinda hoping Push 3 eventually has some kind of solution to this because on Push 2 you couldn’t really go in and edit an automation lane directly to get around it and you had to go back to the computer if you didn’t like the parameter value around your steps or put step automation on EVERY step, which is tedious.
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Ableton has a arranger view. It’s a typical linear timeline like on every other DAW. They will not develop something new. All they need to do us build a Push-Interface for what is already there.
On top of that. I dont think that the Deluge workflow would be as cool with less buttons on the grid, so I hope they won’t have it work exactly like the Deluge.
Controller sold out in about 6 hours in the UK- that how come I ended up ordering the standalone!
Now I have had time to think about it and take everything in…I am glad that happened, its sunny here!
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That would be great if it worked the same in SA (Shift-record). Does somebody of the lucky already owners the possibility to test that?
Well, that’s my point exactly - they need a way to implement it using the grid, so placing blocks of bars in a similar way to the Deluge would be one way to do it.