MPC Thread : MPC Live - MPC X - MPC One (Part 1)

Sweet. Akai have done a really good job on the Live functions/spec. In a way it feels like bread and butter stuff but it does a LOT of bread and butter. And has a ton of memory options. Can just keep filling this thing up over time and gathering/designing sounds/samples. Been wanting something like this for a long time…

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Going to be kinda funny if the OS is solid and smooth, have a feeling a lot of the ‘oh no, that’s just limitations, limitations are great’ preachers for almost every existing hardware unit, will actually not feel themselves tortured/less inspired by having almost no limitations afterall :wink:

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Why not … it’s MPC 2.0 software at least and this software should - together with a “driver” - do it also on the stand-alone. MPC with a Launch-Pad, external faders, etc. would be a great combination :wink:

thats soo hard the shit

IMHO there are plenty of limitations on these MPCs the way I see it. The envs and LFOs onboard are limited to modulating the basicest things, for example. Round robin is only available for keygroup programs. No Mid/Side processing capabilities of any kind onboard. Presuming no way to export 16/44.1 wavs/aiffs in standalone for copying to USB thumb drives for playing with CDJs/media players etc etc. Still plenty of limitations to moan about :troll:

Why you would like Mid/Side processing inside MPC if Mixing Task is way better under a computer … ?

Presuming no way to export 16/44.1 wavs/aiffs in standalone for copying to USB thumb drives

Not agree the Export Menu should be there in Standalone with Export Separate tracks and render on the storage. And then if we must have to switch in controller mode to render it’s not a problem because you plan then to Arrange or Mixing so that’s time the switch to computer coming.

The only limitation i see is to get it ALL in studio with the X. So limitations for me will be money at this stage… :joy:

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In case you didn’t notice the :troll: sign, I was slightly kidding there… But actually, M/S encoder and decoder as fx types would IMO make alot of sense even for creative fx use, considering how much fx pileup is possible even in standalone mode, and everything supports stereo operation… And a few phase-flips that these would require are cheap in terms of DSP (a big benefit of digital - analog M/S is expensive as !)

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I got by with just the Octatrack for quite awhile, using lots of my own recorded material from gear I’d used and sold, combined with one shot drum samples and similar, to build a small EP of mine.

I can’t imagine the MPC Live won’t be up to the task of such a thing. This time around, I can see I’d need just the one synth for my own textures and material, and the rest would work with samples, and would in fact be preferable.

As for what synth that would be, no idea yet. Though I’m looking at the Reface CS or the Prophet 6, which are the two synths that have stayed with me for a long time, after I’d played them.

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MPC Live paired with P-12 Module would be a pretty powerful set-up, and they both suit each other aesthetically…
Add your personal sample pool and off you go!

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Yes, but did you mangle anything in the OT, or just record things in? AFAIK MPCs do not mangle quite as well as the OT.

For recording outboard sounds and composing the recordings will be a piece of cake, especially after the presumed hard disk sample streaming update is released. There are parametric eqs and compressors available so you can even mix your songs.

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I used the OT for it’s worth, doing all kinds of warped stuff. The end result would’ve been impossible in any other production environment.

Oh, drat …

You just had to ask, did you? :slight_smile:

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I’ll elaborate, since I felt @tsutek touched on something here.

I don’t enjoy having much gear around. I’m a one instrument kind of guy. But I don’t mind moving from one piece to another, as long as what I’m doing there is singular and focused.

So I don’t mind writing a piece on an instrument, as long as it can be complete on its own.

I don’t mind recording that into an OT (for example).

I don’t mind to elaborate on that piece within the OT.

What I do mind is:
Play - sample - keep playing - sample that - bring in the drum machine - tweak that live - back to the keyboard - play some more - record - work on the mix - and so on.

I sit down by an instrument. Write a song.

Record that song. Develop it in that recording environment (previously the OT).

Then I’m done.

Which is why the idea of the Live and OT together, doesn’t appeal to me at all (though I can see the massive appeal for many, it’s just not for me).

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Look, we all want you to find the best tools for your needs. Even in the middle of all this hype, I just want to make sure facts are straight and no unfortunate surprises manifest themselves.

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I appreciate it. You’re making a damn fine point, my friend.

I do not pay attention too much to smiley as it’s becoming a symbol for Punctuation and tone. I use them myself that way so i guess it doesn’t give much details (complimentary informations) :bulb:

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What you describe here is perfectly doable with the standalone MPCs. Baking a song out from raw materials (with a different set of mangling options than the Ot). Plus the portability, you can take it with you, continue working with headphones. The portability is the biggest point for myself. Dabbling with an iPad has introduced the idea “best tool for a job is the one you have with you”, and it does not shake off lightly.

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I thinking to what you said @andreasroman and i asking me :
why you not just have a Keyboard Workstation. Portability ?
because if i were a keyboardist, bear in mind tech and sampling… i would go all the way to a Korg Kronos

I would skip programming sample keygroup, slices etc… the most i can and focus on writing …
(it’s more for geek, beatmaker, drummer who play melodical content the same way, sound designer and experiment…)

Wow this looks ace, Hopefully my littlen be into it so I can have one. Ha. Was set on a cheap PS4 for home and a DX for her to encourage playing away from my mobile (kids getting addicted to phones so young is scary and almost unavoidable if you have one) but this seems a perfect balance if the games are any good. Looks like there keen on broadening their 3rd party reach.

Sorry to be off topic… Carry on.

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I’m not sold on this yet. On both these presentation’s Andy has given the exact same demo. My (cynical) fear is he knows what can and can’t be done efficiently so has stuck to ‘simple’. He seems far too cautious Once you get those 8 tracks runnin’, that slab of dull design will start to really wind down in responsiveness. On paper the specs are fantastic, in the wild is another entity. Not being a naysayer, just being cautious. Don’t understand how people need to buy on release day (for me it’s great value but I’m a Tesco driver, so not flush with readies). Besos

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