MPC Thread : MPC Live - MPC X - MPC One (Part 1)

Cheers for that.

Maybe… I don’t know him sorry : )

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Pretty sure it is akai Dan. He’s a good guy that just fell foul of some serious internet memes and banter!

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40 minute MPC Live in use video…

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Can someone with a unit throw some light? Like what’s possible in realtime without stopping sequencer? How smooth do all modes interact re throwing samples/resamples from one mode to another? Can you resample a specified number of beats/bars and assign the new sample anywhere you like without stopping sequencer?

For example throwing resampled bars from drum program > a launch clip? or throw resampled bars in to Keygroup? There are a few vids now but I still have zero idea of how flexible it is to move stuff between modes…

If you record drum loop and then assign it right away while playing you will hear it twice? it will stack and will double the output. What’s the point?

I wasn’t talking about assigning it over the top of itself. But Plenty of possible applications for that. Play it on top in a different pitch/length, play slices, reverse it etc… On OP1 I play the same drum (Op1 term, but basically any samples inside TE Op1 drum sampler) pattern in different octaves etc simultaneously pretty often.

I meant more as in can I in some ways assemble/edit a new section/sequence/sound whilst a sequence is already playing, and then switch to it once I’ve got my shit together :wink:

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It should be possible. But if you want to trim the samples/slices(chops) you will probably be better to turn off the sequencer to hear clearly the edits.

One way to achieve this is to add second layer with the same drum sample and pitch it different(or use different slice, reverse…). That way if you change the pattern you don’t have to resample again because the edits are on the program witch is used by every pattern(sequence) you want.

Then again. It will not work as OP-1 replacement. That’s for sure!

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Listening to a que signal on cans then dropping a new off the cuff pattern (dj style) would be mega for performance. In my mind it seems simple but as was jus mentioned it may not be as simple if your editing samples too.

Seems obvious for creating patterns tho ?! Fingers crossed on that.

If you record the drum loop while playing you have the same loop. It’s just a Sample. In order to hear it will have to put it in a audio track, drum/instrument program or clip. In order to stop the current running loop from what you just recorded you ill need to mute it. Then what? play the same but as clip with effects? Use effects on the original drum loop track.

If you switch to new sequence(pattern) then the last loop you recorded will not sound. It must be assigned to something(program, clip, track …) and sequenced there. It will not sound automatically. So if you resample you just have a sample nothing more.

I don’t think MPCs do what you want them to do. You build tracks layer by layer sequencing external gear and internal sampler programs(drums and instruments).

One more time. MPC is not polyphonic OT or more advanced OP-1. There are a lot of videos in the youtube that you can watch and figure out how they work and decide if that fits your needs.

Hope this info help you understand what is going on.

Cheers!

MPC has tracks tho right? And those tracks can be different kinds of ā€˜programs’ right? and a single MPC sequence can contain multiple tracks/programs right? So in theory I should be able to do different things on different tracks with the different program modes at the same time, in one sequence. And then mute tracks to switch from (for example) the original pattern > a resample of that pattern. Maybe I’m totally misunderstanding mpc workflow/os or im not explaining what I mean very well… :slight_smile:

It’s probably me not understanding the question.
Sorry for that.

Cheers!

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I’m probably not explaining very well :wink: If I had it in front of me I could check it out but it hasn’t really been shown in vids so far so I’m wondering if its just not something people have wanted to do, or whether it isn’t possible… I’m sure someone will clarify at some point :slight_smile:

About to Pre order. Not usually one too but I can’t resist with the cash sat in PayPal… Ā£750 (after a well haggled haggle) delivered 25th (so they say)

On holiday on the 30th so fingers crossed it turns up… the audio tracks couid maybe even replace I tunes on the balcony… :sunny:

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this reminds me of that time where I switched from my old Electribe EM1 to the Octatrack…
that was probably the most intuitive, fast and fun instrument I ever owned - but then again, extremely limited compared to the Octa.
Same case here - if the MPC does a lot more, it will have more menus…
(on a sidenote, before going after the Octatrack I was super excited about the new Electribes - then the info on them started coming out… and I got progressively dissapointed, as a lot of users - I wished they had done a less toy-ish instrument, charge double if needed… but an Electribe with Pro features would probably be my perfect match)

on the other hand, I don’t think the Octatrack is that great in regards to UI - we all remember our first days/weeks with the unit… countless frustration moments with the recorder, sample list headaches, and so on…

me personally, I’m hoping I’ll be able to test the MPC Live in a near future… a few G.A.S. thoughts I’ve had:

  1. my first impulse was ā€œI’ll sell the Octatrack and get MPC Liveā€ - I explained my reasons in an early post here
  2. lately I’ve been somewhat afraid of selling my Octa for this - specially considering that I want to be able to play live gigs, and I have the feeling MPC Live will be better for studio work - composing… so…
    MPC Live for creating beats, sequencing synths > Octatrack as an 8-track/ fx unit for live use… sounds interesting.
  3. although I never clicked producing on computers, I’m leaning more and more on them, trying to do an effort to record my material and put it out once and for all (I have something like 40 tracks, but I hate the whole tracking process, I like creating new music all the time)… so all those posts mentioning Maschine made me think if I should give it ago.
    I’m all for a good workflow, and tbh I always create music at home - even if I’m not home, I can always create sketches/play around on the iPad… so I feel a sudden interest in Maschine - I don’t know if it will be my thing though - but a friend of mine works with it so I’ll pay him a visit soon
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If you can, just keep the OT. You may regret selling it.

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Don’t sell the octatrack. They complement each other too well

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Making patterns should certainly be possible - Just assign the first kit to outputs 1/2 and the ā€œnextā€ kit to use outputs 3/4. Then use a DJ mixer with two unused line channels to mix between the two. Actually, since there are six outputs, you can have three channels going into a DJ mixer.

Some older MPCs had a SIMULT SEQ function which enabled one to play two separate sequences together at the same time… Never used it though (didn’t need to) so not sure if it would be useful here? I have no idea how you’d edit them while they’re playing…

Lastly, if you intend to use the live as a ā€œdeckā€ of sorts, remember to get a suitably large ext HDD for your music collection :diddly:

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Nice one : )

Adding this to the setup of 2 decks and a mixer for semi live dj sets is certainly on the cards.

But from a purely live/jam scenario I hadn’t considered it as much in that way… Excited by these ideas tho… Which in this game is the sign of something good, as I’ve been feeling the need for a fresh approach lately.

The biggest obstacle to this is the output assignment procedure. IIRC this was a per-pad type of deal with my MPC 1000 running JJOS, which takes a bit more time than if there was a way to globally specify output assignment for the entire program… But even this can be circumvented by program prepping (ie. making two copies of your fave drum program with naming conventions, like ā€œtapey606-outs12ā€ & ā€œtapey696-outs34ā€ etc)

And yeh, two decks + two stereopairs from an MPC live, a 4ch mixer with the dj mixer aux send connected to the MPC inputs… would be a dope setup indeed! I also planned something like this with my OT, but have never found a satisfactory workflow with the OT for it (I blame myself, not the OT)

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