Moving to Australia

You are very kind to think of me, I wish you well too.

Yeah I got some pedals and a mother32 after the first few weeks of lockdown. YOLO i guess, no regrets.

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wow, I’m glad I’m not the only one who GASsed out of boredom. haha

What will you be selling anyway? Seems like you have a captive audience on here at the moment

Heh
I suppose so

I won’t be selling anything for 2 more weeks, which is why I was waiting to list stuff. Also still trying to do some research on prices and costs of shipping/etc

I’ll post here first

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Trying to fight my GASsy temptations during this lockdown.

Was happy to see that the Typhon I was eyeing on facebook for about a week was sold. Was really tempted when the seller reduced the price lol

I just got my s2400, waited over one year from order. Good timing getting it on ground hog day .

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Here’s a FS post
https://www.elektronauts.com/t/fs-aus-a4-mkii-black-impulse-command-avalanche-run/159519

I’ve actually got a few more things, but just getting organized and finishing up a few projects before I can post everything.

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So tempted for that A4, but must resist.
Anyhoo, I don’t know what else you have coming up, but I’m looking for some sound gear and have some stuff to trade too…
https://www.elektronauts.com/t/ft-h9-max-dark-ak-subsequent37-nordlead-a1-sydaus/143704

Well, didn’t read the entire thread, but just curious about those who are living in Australia as well as the person moving, you know about this bill that was passed to be able to search your devices, and control your online content etc in the last day? And anyone living there have any thing that you can ‘say’ about the restrictions?

Up front, anyone watching this linked story, the first bit is a joke video for the opener, but the bill being passed is covered later in the news content that I’m curious about what residents in Australia think or know about this- https://youtu.be/HjH2dyunBE4

Not many people have heard about it but we are living in a weird dystopia society right now. Thinking of how I can escape this country right now. In my view, it’s extremely bad.

Have you ever lived anywhere else?
I have. Australia is pretty cushy to say the least.

The internet has been censored in australia for a while now, nothing new.

Go right ahead, search my devices and online content… (google, facebook et al already do that) some bird photos, music I made, skateboarding and a bunch of synth nerd stuff… yeah the government really gives a shit about that.

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Yes, I have lived in Europe for 10 years. Living in Victoria is really depressing. Personal freedoms no longer exist (with the exception of your own home, as long as you stay there without face to face contact from the outside world).

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Personal freedoms such as?
Covid lockdown related? That’s not specific to Victoria, nor Australia.

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If you think so.

Same ol bullshit that pops up every now and then. Personally, I don’t care, nothing to hide.

I did have a look at the end part of your video. So yeh, plenty of dumb fucks out there willing to use their toddlers as a human shield. Drug dealers getting pissed off that they can’t have clients come and go as they please. Home robbery all but impossible since everyone is at home…
It’s no fun living in Sydney right now. I can’t work (no, not a gangster) and segregated from my partner for over a month now. But I don’t have a PhD in virology, epidemiology, public health management or social science, so I’m going to do whatever those brainboxes tell me to do.

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Victoria has felt pretty militant for a while to be fair. Once they started pile-driving people for not having a train ticket I knew it was time to get out.

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Well, now I do. Yeah that’s pretty wild.
Honestly, I’m not too surprised. I’ve always noticed Australia has a bit of the “nanny state” vibe.
Like I said earlier in the thread, I’ve accepted whatever differences there are from the US by moving here willingly. We have already talked about moving back to the US if it looks like things aren’t going to work out once all the lockdowns are over and we can have a crack at a normal life.

But, I would also say that this kind of stuff could be interpreted as a step toward a culture that is more focused on the good of society.
I’m not saying the details of this particular bill aren’t a little concerning to me, but I’m also trying to escape a culture that seems to be fine with the breakdown of society because they think some simple, MINIMAL health safeguards are somehow destroying their personal liberty.

Without a functioning society, I don’t really see the value in absolute personal liberty. No one has that anyway, no matter where you live. There’s just too many damn people in the world now to be trying to make concessions for everyone’s individual demands, preferences, feelings, ego, etc…
I feel like maybe the answer is somewhere in the middle. I don’t think Australia is wildly the opposite of America in this respect, so I’ll try it their way for a while, maybe it will work.

I’m not agreeing or disagreeing with you, only to point out there’s a flaw in this argument. Someone could say that’s like not caring about the right to free speech because you personally don’t have anything to say. Protections are supposed to be broad to protect the most people’s rights, because some don’t want to give them up, guilty or innocent.

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I just read some more details on this bill.
(Since I’m not super fluent on Australian politics or law, I’m speaking clearly from my own understanding of American law and what I’ve started learning since being here.)

The thing that stands out as the most concerning, to me, isn’t the fact the police can have ultimate access to your device or accounts. It’s that they don’t even really need a warrant.
The police aren’t voted in.
Judges are, or at least they’re appointed by people who are. (maybe someone can correct me if this isn’t the case in Aus).
Judges and courts are supposed to make determinations about the law and lawfulness of any given case and protect individual rights under those laws. They’re given that power by the people who vote for them.
The police are just regular folks doing a job, gathering evidence.

If the police need access to devices belonging to people suspected of a crime and have probable cause, that’s one thing. Fair enough.
If they have this ability without going through a judge or court system that would otherwise protect individual rights or people from being searched without any cause, that’s a problem. Because the police are regular folks that the voting public did not expressly put into this power. They’re subject to bias, impulse, mistakes, lack of training, and they aren’t held accountable by the voting public like elected officials. There should be some kind of procedural steps audited by a governing body when it comes to individual rights.

This is purely just an observation. Like I said, I came here willingly, so I’ll play ball, for now.

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