I predict 3-4k if 6 voiced.
4-5k if 8 voiced.
I am confused about the name, as in other forums they say “Moog Mirror” was registered under software.
I predict 3-4k if 6 voiced.
4-5k if 8 voiced.
I am confused about the name, as in other forums they say “Moog Mirror” was registered under software.
My first impression from this blurry first photo of the panel is that it looks like it will be fun to program, looks like good horizontal flow which I really appreciate! I love the polys I have and don’t really think I’m in the market atm but let’s see!
Reasonable assumption. It’s kind of silly how much prices change with voices in analog synths.
I mean the main layout for them is the industrial design, circuit design, PCB layout, workers’ time, the control components, etc. These are the expensive parts. The difference between 6 and 8 voices assuming all else equal in an analog poly should be minimal. Unless the board size then forces the physical size to be larger, in which case, yes, then you have more metal, more metal work, slightly higher power requirements, possibly larger keybed, etc.
However, if you have one voice laid out, it’s simply copy-paste from there, and telling your MCU (or whatever you’re using to control it all that there are more voices to rotate through). Once the code is complete for any number of voice over one, then it is a fairly simple matter to rotate through the rest, assuming you have enough AD / DA channels. I’m sure it can become more complex when you get up into high voice counts though, as timing/multiplexing/etc. may become more of an issue. I’m not a polysynth designer (at this time), so I’ll leave that to the experts. The analog side though, is pretty straight forward.
I’m not saying that synth prices in general are off. While expensive, I think they’re priced pretty close to what they should be given the current climate. However, adding a couple of voices to go from six to eight, or an additional voice board to go from eight to sixteen should be quite reasonable depending on what components are used in the voices.
An 8 voice fully analog poly with the Moog logo on it will likely be $5000. Absolute bananas.
I want to be wrong.
there’s a myriad of posts online from gearspaces, modwiggler etc all outlining the issues with the keys. There wasn’t enough grease put in one of the areas that requires it (this is me heavily paraphrasing) causing some uneven action and creaking and also can impact the velocity/after touch.
I’m with you - except without the presets.
so, five octaves, two oscillators, a mod oscillator, unison, chord function, a display… The red button could be a sequencer. a timbre A and B section also points to a bi-timbral instrument.
$1699 VIRTUAL Analog
To compete with the KingKorgNeo
it will be 8 virtualized voices of the Minotaur Plugin = Labyrinth
with a single Analog Filter
Analog Moog are never coming back, only Hybrid from here out
source?
responding to a discussion 30 posts up, lexan is a trade name for polycarbonate glass, similar to acrylic but with slightly different properties in temperament and shatter resistance. I’m thinking the overlay panel is probably something like ABS which is easy to texture, relatively strong and easy to print / silk screen onto without any real special treatment.
that said, the whole overlay is definitely a “sticker” but it’s not a paper or vinyl sticker, it’s pretty thick and they probably print offsite so an operation which involved shipping entire chassis for direct application printing would really make this a 10k+ synth. They print stacks of these on adhesive backed laser cut material and then it’s applied in a process by either a machine or manual application. I don’t think that alone says this lacks any quality.
I am definitely fond of how elektron screen prints right onto the chassis though, one of the things I find so endearing to elektron devices is the quality of workmanship and the solid feel of the products.
I love the look of it. Those big blocky, backlit, buttons. Looks like the ADSR has faders, but missing caps from the pic.
Hmmm, if it’s 3,000 or less I may go out of my way if it has more than 4 notes of poly.
It would be great if it’s 2500, just a bit more than the matriarch.
I’m wondering, now that they will be manufacturing synths both in house at headquarters and in some other country if they’ll have some special edition model for people to opt to buy future released instruments that are made in the US? I doubt it but it’s a curious thought I have rolling around.
Another curious thought I have is…. They say they’ve got some new innovative ideas there working on,
I was thinking The Moog Mugus. A solid piece of wood, carved into a mug. It wood be a wireless midi controller that is powered by your movements using the same type of self powered tech in watches, that would be at the base. Then it could have a few discrete knobs to adjust parameters. It would respond to your drinking movements, sipping portion, and caffeinated jitters. You could also purchase a separate lid if you want to ensure that you won’t have any unwanted spills or to use a straw for added modulations when blowing bubbles.
‘You’ve been demanding we take your money for decades. Just remember to say please.
Moog Mugus’
Everyone will be raging about getting mugged by Moog!
Thanks for clarifying!
I’d suggest the: Ooooh Matron!
Yup. Its made of leather
I don’t think the company was sold for chairty
purposes… they’re gonna milk it as hard as the market can stand
That’s reasonable, and seems likely.
However, if Inmusic can hit $2,500 and the thing sounds Moog, that will make a splash.
I think people take for granted how reasonably priced and solidly made the current MPCs have been for a while. A lot of issues were reported in the earlier Live Mk1s, but things settled down. I have one of the last of the Mk1s and it’s always run fine. At this point the company knows something about manufacturing instruments.
I don’t even think the Mirror has to actually sound like a Matriarch, as long as it sounds good and Moogish (subjective). The Matri is wonderful but it has only 4 oscs TOTAL, and you can’t save anything. It’s my favorite synth but it’s very 1975 in a lot of ways, not everyone wants that.
Translating the Matri sound to the Mirror will mean the designers deciding how to gainstage the 16 oscs of the Mirror into the mixer, and the mixer output into the filter. Do you still let the user distort the hell out of the filter input if all osc levels are high in the mixer (like the Matriarch) or set limits so the sound stays well-groomed (more of an Oberheim approach)? It seems like almost inevitably, the core sound will have to change a little.
I hope it doesn’t sound totally the same as the Matriarch(which i don think is their best). The Voyager sound would be much better imo.
Moog Matron has a nice ring to it
Moog Sister From Another Mister
Moog Minger?