Model:Cycles Feature Requests Thread

It’s funny how Elektron, when releasing new instruments, ignores the series of models for years. Despite the fact that I have 80 percent of their equipment and each one is interesting to me.

I’m not sure if I understand Your point you using the word „despite”. So Elektron should run their business based of what Elektron products YOU own and what YOU think about them? Interesting, tell us more! What would be the (missing) second generation of „Models” be like?

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I think you missed the point. Not all people suffer from egocentrism. It was about the fact that Elektron makes tools with the prospect of their expansion. This line of instruments received nothing more than bug fixes.

Thnx.

And p-locks, albeit very early on for the Samples, so likely was planned from the beginning.

please elektron don’t forget the model line

I got it now, sorry for the misunderstanding!

Well I personally don’t have too much high hopes for expansions. I suspect The Models were designed to be „gateway drugs” to the Elektron ecosystem. And it worked for me :smiley: I had both. Sold the Samples, and went for a Digitakt, I just wanted that great sequencer be able to do more. I’ve kept the Cycles, because it is one of the most original sounding and fun to use synths I’ve ever owned. Now I crave for a Digitone and Syntakt.

So here it is: as much as the their features, the Models have limited room for expansion. They cant be too competitive to the mid-range models, they can’t add too much hardware-wise to keep it at a entry-level price.

And also, pure speculation: is Elektron making money selling them? As they start building a new hardware/software platform with Digitakt II, do they have resources to develop those further? It is a relatively small company.

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tbf I dont think Elektron ever explicitly promise feature updates on any of their products. Yes the other more premium machines do get them, but they are welcome bonuses rather than something that has been explicitly promised from the start. This attitude that music gear should be constantly receiving feature updates or else they must have been ‘abandoned’ is a fairly new phenomenon, and its a bit weird/entitled

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Of course, you can use flood and demagoguery, and I don’t mind at all. Bless

Completely agree, that would be great. It’s frustrating having the lfo just completely free running.

What happens if you p-lock the first step in a sequence to the ENV WAV shape with 1ST conditionality while all of your other steps are your desired free running shape? I wonder if that would reset the LFO every time a sequence is restarted, I feel like it would give you the desired result of resetting a free running LFO of any speed. Not ideal but as long as the first step of your sequence isn’t already used, you could do it to a lock trig. Worst case scenario, you could probably nudge a lock trig on step 2 all the way to the left and get close enough on your first loop through. My model cycles is boxed up right now otherwise I would test it myself.

edit: yeah I just looked over the manual and it sounds like this should work:

from section 10.6.1:

"The Envelope (ENV) waveform makes the LFO behave differently. If you select ENV, the LFO starts from the beginning of its cycle every time a note is trigged (The RST parameters setting is ignored), run for one cycle and then stop (one-shot). "

you could really put this lock trig anywhere in your sequence and get the desired result in most use cases. The only scenario i think you’d be in a bind is say a hat pattern where all of the trigs are active, but even that could be remedied with the note repeats, leaving every other trig empty.

you could also make duplicates of this lock trig throughout your pattern & note assign the 1ST conditionality & get the 2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10 reset conditions @oroboro described in his first post

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For LFO resets you may also want to explore ‘LFO Mode’ as a velocity destination. It’s in the manual (appendix B in the model samples manual) but not explained at all. However some knowledgable people here have exploited it for a few tricks. If I can find them, I will come back and edit this post. Basically, you sacrifice velocity as a volume control, and instead use it, p-locked, to control resets.

EDIT: Here’s one of mine:

EDIT 2: And here’s the timestretch trick:

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Lol update just tried my idea and it doesn’t work. You have to map to velocity like @bibenu suggested

Cool thanks for the tips, very creative use of the available functionality. I will try these. :slightly_smiling_face:

However, I still think it would be great to have the option simply to set the LFO to restart on playback, leaving the V depth to control other parameters etc. (This is the ‘feature request’ thread after all!)

USB AUDIO OUT PER TRACK > WEN ?? :face_with_head_bandage:

Never. The chipset can’t handle it.

There was a third-party “Underbridge Pro” app to automate multi-tracking audio one at a time, but I never tried it.

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This is the single most annoying thing on the M:C. For the love of God, let us see which preset each track is using !!! Even if you have edited the sound later, the original preset could be displayed when you go to machines, and not the root folder.

Besides, no device ever should be left at a *.13 firmware version … lots of great suggestions above without eating up the market of the higher end boxes in their portfolio.

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was there ever any update to M:C ?

Yes

https://www.elektron.se/release-notes/modelcycles-os-release-notes

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Why is there no “Save as New” Setting? When I play and edit an existing Pattern, I need to save it to a new slot - why can’t I do that? What am I missing? I can copy it to a new slot, but only when I save the actual state, which overrides the old state of the pattern:/

Are you talking about patterns or projects here? You can save a pattern to an empty slot.

Press pattern, this turns the pads into your “banks” and the steps into your “patterns” inside the selected bank. Your current pattern will be highlighted with a blinking light. Hold the step, press the “o” button, hold the step you wanna paste to, then hold down the square “stop” button until the 4-step bar on the screen fills up and it says “pattern pasted”

To save a project in a new project slot, highlight an empty slot in the list, click the main encoder and press save.

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