Miserable git's general and non-specific (but very inclusive) whingeing thread - If you've got thoughts about stuff, I'm your guy

i’ll make it easy:

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This pretty much quotes word for word some of what I read. But it doesn’t contain the actual solo, so I went back and watched that, and now I am not feeling miserable at all.

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Sounds less like they were gaslighting you and more like just gassing you.

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I think the only thing worse than prince shredding after you would prolly be being the act after prince…

Being on the same stage on the same evening, at any point, really.

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it is a nice little anecdote to that solo

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Ha! Well, speaking of gas, in that same little four cubicle office space, I did have a round little coworker who regularly took naps under his desk, during which he snored loudly and ripped farts in his sleep. So, yeah, industrial-sized boiler gas fumes, gaslighting from management, and highly annoying coworkers passing gas, all in one small space. Good times!

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Just chipping in with experiences of other forums.

I’m a developer, so I used to spend a lot of time answering questions and sometimes asking them on a place called Stack Overflow, the programming variant of a series of community QnA websites. I quit a few years ago because programmers, as a general rule, have such a high propensity towards lacking social skills that it just became a chore.

One of the rules on there was to show effort in your question (not just expect someone to put the answer on a plate for you), what you’d tried, what you expected vs. experienced, etc. You were supposed to provide a MVCE (minimal verifiable, complete example). However, even if you did this, assorted arse holes would downvote you without explanation or leave arsey comments under your question and in the end I just thought, fuck it, you people are just driving people to AI.

'Nauts is definitely one of the friendlier forums I’ve used. Yamaha Musicians is generally nice, too. I have every admiration for the admins; I used to run a forum and that shit can be really trying at times.

It’s genuinely interesting, from a psychological perspective, just how much people can be bell-ends when behind a screen, as though a lifetime’s pent-up resentment just pours out one downvote or pedantic reply at a time.

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It seems to me to go in cycles here. These past few weeks have felt pretty bad.

I have been on a thread-muting spree and it makes things a lot better.

Still loads of fine folk here

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I hear ya. I remember that place. I used to do a lot of HTML, CSS, and JS. Used to frequent it often for answers but never signed up, just a lurker. Found a lot of good advice and info on there, but always seemed like 50% of the answers/replies were wrapped in snark and hostility. Tough crowd.

I wonder about this as well. There seems to be so much bitterness and hate when people are just avatars on a screen. I start to wonder if lots of people in real life are also thinking these things, but censoring themselves, just in the nick of time, so they don’t get their butts whooped or thrown out of the backyard BBQ.

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That was sometimes the safesy way! I used to have several accounts, just because I knew that if I asked a question from my main (high-rep) account, I’d get flamed. (Some people like to downvote out of “rep jealousy”.)

I definitely think this is a thing. Social mores within polite society just about keep a lid on things, particularly somewhere like the UK where there’s a culture of being insincere and smiley despite our true feelings. Take social conventions away, though, and I reckon most of us turn to animals pretty quickly. In a sense, the internet versions of some people are the truer versions.

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Feel you on this one.

The TV negative talk I found fatiguing and now all these releases and people getting frenzied, it’s felt noisy, most of that noise being negative.

I’ve kept well away from the TR1000 thread.

I haven’t muted anything as I think I’d rather just step away form the forum than have to self moderate it. Definitely in my considerations for next year! I lurked for a good few yrs and only joined last year, really enjoy it on the whole but have also felt the burn recently like some of the other posts mentioning.

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Haha

I kept getting the urge to defend the TV as I think it’s got so much going for it but it’s just not worth it.

Some of the quick fire returns have been pretty hilarious though - fatiguing but funny.

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Yeah, on second thought I guess I sound pretty naive. Maybe I just want to believe the people I come across in real life are 99% nice, and the assholes on the internet are shut-ins never seeing the light of day. But, yeah, I’m sure there is a lot of self-censorship IRL, for many reasons.

Makes it weird trying to discern who is actually sincerely nice and who is just wearing a mask. Doesn’t help my social anxiety lol.

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Maybe I should exercise the mute as well, I often think a bit black and white (I.e delete my account) but it might make my nauts time nicer.

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Big Jim? Is that you?

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https://youtu.be/cZk2jV5gJbM?si=pM89DNv7xgofaigY

My favourite part of this was when this showed up on my YouTube feed I thought it was satire and saved it to watch later. A year later I was in the mood for some old British humour, load it up… wait this isn’t a comedy sketch?

I actually enjoy positive gear chat and hearing what people think of new stuff coming out.

But fuck me the sheer volume of the threads is overwhelming, I think the TR1000 thread had over 2,000 posts in the tiny window between leak and actual announcement…. I wonder if there’s a way to limit post count per user per thread for newly released gear? You get one per day, you gotta make it count.

Because the flipside to that is that it is actually a genuinely pretty exciting time for new gear in the ‘groovebox’ arena. 1010 Bento, Tonverk, MPC Live 3, TR1000… it feels like a new generation of music making tools. I want to hear how y’all are excited and inspired by them! I don’t want to hear how you think X company has failed you on a personal level and set foot on the road to inevitable insolvency by excluding X feature. Big releases like these only come around every 5-10 years, get excited or just fucking move on.

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Yep! Though, it’s life in general! Deal with the bad and be grateful for the good!

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For me, the excitement of new gear is what new things it can offer people in their music making. The new things we can bend and break to make new sounds
Threads used to be about stuff like that, but specs seem to be taken at face value now, hardly anyone is looking at gear with an eye on experimenting with it, probably not gonna own it long enough to get that deep with it.

Now it’s all spec wanking, largely because making music is pretty low down a lot of these lot’s list of priorities, whether they’re aware of that or not I don’t know.

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Dude! People are dicks! Fire up that laptop and make some noise! Though, I hope the cpu is up to it. Do you even have enough memory. Better get a faster SSD!

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Totally agree.

TV being a good example, it’s clearly so open ended and full of creative potential, but the moaning that ensued was so drab and disproportionate.

I’m just going to get one next year and make stuff on it and ignore the talk, I was beginning to feel a bit “leave TV alone”.

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