MACKIE 1202VLZ4 any thoughts?


#107

by overspeaking - do you mean that channels bleed into each other? I though i have had some bleeding, but realized that some aux send were not quite silenced


#108

No overspeak or other noise on my 1202VLZ4. Power conditioning and DI with ground lift for my guitar and bass has me dead silent. Guitar/mic from Voicelive3. Active Bass.

In addition, heat/synths/ableton(via interface output) on other channels and using the aux3/4 “mute” bus to send any channels I desire to Heat. Control room back to my interface for track recording in Ableton. Mains to the JBL NFMs.

Very flexible, loving it!


#109

I really wish the smaller mackies would have level leds. No level indicators is a bit of a problem for me in a live setup.

I instead got a 1642, which however is a bit to big for me in a live setup.


#110

yes,
every pot is silenced!

even if i mute the channel i still hear them in the master and other channels …

this bleeding is getting more complex through sends and busses! it´s not only one of those mixers, it´s everyone i have!


#111

I found an old Studiomaster Trilogy - more details here:


#112

Doh! Sorry, I guess I missed that. :relaxed: Thanks.


#113

I love my 1202VLZ4. I hope it knows it, and I probably don’t say it enough. Absolute workhorse.


#114

Loving my 1202VLZ4 too!What a sound/built quality combo!Also hooking up a Fethead on my mics has me dead silenced with the gain all the way down…


#115

This may be of interest to some people, sampling with the Octatrack via an 1202VLZ4.

I wanted to have ALT3-4 as a clean bus that I could send to inputs C&D of the octratrack, for sampling, via the direct ALT3-4 output jacks on the back.

However I found it incredibly frustrating tha as soon as a channel is put into MUTE/ALT3-4, both Aux 1 and Aux 2 Post fader sends are rendered silent, and only Aux 1 can be used if the Aux 1 master is set to Pre-fade send. Pretty useless in a performance scenario.

Having consulted the service manual schematics, I found that the first of the 4 parallel switches within each of the MUTE/ALT3-4 buttons disconnects the audio send to the aux’s and sends the signal to ground when the button is pushed.

On each of the Mono Channels I was able to bridge the relevant switch contacts with solder, and cut the trace to ground. Now both my post fade aux sends function whilst those channels are on the ALT3-4 bus! (I believe it would be possible to do with the stereo channels too, but the 4 mono channels were enough for me)

The ALT3-4 bus is then mixed back into the main mix as a control room source. All the while I have a clean signal going to the octatrack for sampling, with aux sends doing their thing!

I’m stoked I’ve been able to do this after learning a bit of basic electronics in the last month, and hopefully this info will be of some use/interest to some people here. I noticed some posts from 2016 complaining about the limitations of the hardware, so here is an easy fix.

If anyone wants more details I’d be happy to provide.


#116

Nice mod…
I get around this by monitoring the OT’s inputs that I’ve sent alt3/4 into out of the OT’s cue outputs and into another channel, and then aux from there…


#117

Woah. I just reworked my set up and now have all outputs connected - I get saddened by that limitation. My work around and sample source is currently the control room out - which is identical to my main. Downside if this is that it doesn’t include alt3-4. nice mod!


#118

Instead of selecting the Main Mix as the source selection option, I send the ALT 3-4 mix to the Control Room outputs. I use it just like an extra ALT 3-4 output.

I send the ALT 3-4 mix via the Control Room outputs to the sampler.
I also send the ALT 3-4 mix via the ALT 3-4 outputs to the (theoretical) DAW.


#119

Thanks! Thats a good workaround - having done the mod I’m enjoying the onboard Octatrack FX and using the reclaimed CUE output as my stereo FX return!


#120

Just got the 1202, and I need a safe solution for putting it at a tilted angle. Quite steep, around 30-45 degrees. Any ideas?


#121

I use this AIAIAI Laptop Stand with my 1202.

Can also be made from readily available plumbing materials.

Edit* Just Remembered that I had to cut it down to size, because the mixer feet didn’t rest properly. It was easy to saw in a vice.

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