MACKIE 1202VLZ4 any thoughts?


#1

seems like the only mixer with 2 sends which doesn’t take up an entire square meter estate space.
anyone having experience? be it good or bad


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#2

Have a 802VLZ4, it’s good stuff. Sound is good, layout is intuitive, build quality is solid.
Only one send on mine but the ALT34 offers a lot routing-wise.

My friend has a 1402VLZ (older generation) with the two sends… It still works after 20 years.


#3

I’ve had a 1202VLZ3 for years.

I’ve dropped it, spilled stuff into it, mistreated it in many ways and it is still going strong.

I haven’t personally used any of the VLZ4 range, but if I had to get an new mixer the 1202VLZ4 is what I’d go for without a doubt.


#4

I’ve had the older version for what must be 10 years. The pots are a bit scratchy now and it might cost more to replace them than it would to buy a new one.

It’s done good service though. Lack of sweep-able EQ is a problem though.


#5

i have this one easy to use really enjoy with it
2aux send return
4 line stereo
4 preampli
eq not bad
And affordable

but the must is the alt out 3-4 .I use it to root my other channel to my chorus rack like that i use the aux and the eq before the chorus and after i eq the chorus


#6

802VLZ3 user here. Nice compact footprint and as other have said the alt3&4 output is perfect for routing back to the line ins on the Octatrack.


#7

the 1402 is good but without the semi-eq on the monos? what about the 1642 vlz4?

just think about shaping the ar-drums with it


#8

I still got my Mackie 1202-VLZ Pro in my studio, which also has been and is used for many live gigs for I think about almost 10 years now. Love this Mixer, the size an the integrated PSU , soundwise etc. If I ever need a new one it´ll be a 1202 again, maybe a VLZ5 or 6. I really hope that Mackie will never discontinue the 1202!


#9

sweet. thanks everyone for the insight. looks like the only contender in this price range with as many routing possibilities … cheers!


#10

close to pull the trigger here. one question I have and hope some of you can answer (I’m a total mixer noob as you can tell):

it has 2 aux but only AUX1 has the pre fader button. does that mean I can’t use AUX2 as an FX send because I will always hear the dry signal coming from the original track? (think muting will mute the AUX too - from what I understand)… hope that makes sense
cheers


#11

I bought a 1202 VLZ4 recently and it’s one of my better purchases in years.

The manual is so damn good. Really, really, really, informative.

http://mackie.com/sites/default/files/PRODUCT%20RESOURCES/MANUALS/Owners_Manuals/1202VLZ4_OM.pdf


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#12

I just got a 1402 VLZ4 recently. I kind of wish I would have gotten the 1202 for the size. That being said, the ALT 3-4 is awesome, as I can route different things to the Octatrack to sample or send things to external effects. Yeah. It’s a great mixer.


#13

No, the AUX 2 Send is an FX Send too. Everything is going to be fine. Page 15 of the manual goes into the details.


#14

got the 1202 vlz4, good sound, nice small package, just two complaints: there are no led meters on the channels, just on the sum, so you dont have a visual hint, on which channel there is actual sound, and the two sends for fx are just mono, only the returns are stereo.


#15

IMO the VLZ4 series mixers sound great. So great in fact that I feel my converters are not capturing everything! :smile_cat: I also have a VLZ3 and somehow it doesn’t sound as good? Haven’t done any scientific A/B on this though


#16

It’s true that the mixer doesn’t offer a separate meter for each channel, but individual channels can be monitored at any time, in the same way as is described in the Set Levels procedure in the owner’s manual, by engaging the solo switch.

I’m not an expert with this stuff, and I’m not trying to be mister RTFM guy, but some of these things went over my head for years, until I finally looked it up.

The Hookup Diagram section of the manual, with a suggested Recording System set up (on page 6), is exactly how I have my own home studio set up now:

The audio outputs from a laptop computer are connected to the RCA tape inputs. This allows you to playback your recordings made using the DAW of your choice. The Alt 3-4 outputs are used to feed the inputs to your computer’s sound card. By pressing a mute/alt 3-4 switch, it is easy to set up a channel to record onto your computer.

You can use this setup to record overdub style:

  1. For the track being recorded, route it to the alt 3-4 output, which feeds the computer input.
  2. Monitor just the previously-recorded tracks through the tape input, which will feed the control room/phones.
  3. Since only the currently-recorded track is feeding the computer (through alt 3-4), you will hear the previous tracks you are overdubbing to, but they will not be recorded to each new track.
  4. The control room/phones is fed by a mixture of alt 3-4 (currently recorded track) and tape in (output of your DAW playing back previously-recorded tracks).

But in this case, the ‘audio outputs from a laptop computer’ and my computer’s ‘sound card’ is my 2x2 USB audio interface.


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#17

hey Brad, I just picked one up and I was wondering how you’re using aux2? so far I can only have the original track as well as whatever i return from aux2. any workaround here?.. the manual seems to confirm this, if I understand correctly

much thanks


#18

To be honest, I haven’t used the Aux Send or Stereo Returns yet. I don’t have dedicated effects units like a delay or a reverb, though I’ve thought of using my modular synth for that purpose, or maybe just my laptop itself.

I don’t completely understand what you’re trying to do with Aux 2 as part of a greater plan, but I wonder, what’re you doing with Aux 1?


#19

aux1 has a pre-fader(level) switch, if engaged it’s effectively muted but still sending to aux1. aux2 is silent when you dial the track level all the way down - so I basically can’t get a fully wet fx send via aux2


#20

Had a 1202 VLZ. Until gave away while downsizing 2 years ago. Clean sound , nice clear strong signal to monitors. Considering another , possibly a 1402, maybe used. 1202 is great size for live hardware gig !

Careful NOT to get the Pro FX Series . 1st one had to be replaced by Sweetwater for hissing in FX section ( which I never really use anyway ) . 2nd is OK but have never been fully satisfied w gain on some channels. Check price difference, the FX series uses cheaper pc’s / components.

Why did I not notice this sooner ? Time- better gear , analog synths , discerning ear reveals weakest link.

VLZ very good.