Machinedrum secondhand prices are getting crazy

Exactly!

2 years back I got a Monomachine for €800. And there were 2 on sale at the same time, same price!

Should’ve bought both…

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I got mine for 600€ on Audiofanzine (but it was 3 years ago, I think - before the hype)

Always check what items are actually selling for and not just what people are asking. If its listed online somewhere like reverb it will be a higher ask due to fees.

Anybody can ask anything they want. If you see a second hand item for sale online, in an in person store, or whatever. It means no one is buying it. Which means that isn’t the price it’s selling.

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Great!! Thanks that’s what I need :elmd:

Wrote this for sysex kits changes.
Same principle for machines, maybe I wrote it somewhere, but there are also other users informations in the threads listed in the search link I posted above.

Midi kit selection? - #16 by sezare56

I even used midi processing for pitch correction ! @korpinen, maybe X.xx OS would have retained me to sell my MD !

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Kick flavours of Machinedrum’s BD2 :wink:

Like I said it depends on what kinds of kicks you like. I prefer these though I’m sure ST can do these too.

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Would love to see Elektron bring back the MachineDrum in modern format. Perhaps Syntakt, DT and Rytm are the closest we can get now for that sound.

The Machinedrum isn’t great because of the sound. It’s the 16 freely assignable LFOs, that’s what’s unique about it.
I don’t even use it much lately, but it’s my favourite drum machine because of that, It can make sounds that evolve a lot over time.

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and the weak point of the Rytm is limit to 1 LFO. But at least Octatrack allows for multiple LFOs.

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But you can plock the destination, speed and shape for each step. That’s some power, still.

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IMO the best thing that could happen to the Rytm would be freely assignable 12 lfo’s instead of an extra one per track.

It would make it absolutely endless for creative exploration.

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true and in spite of limits, Rytm still my go to drum machine. I use that or modular drums and sometimes Virus that has nice crunchy sounds too.

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IT WOULD BE BONKERS AMAZEBONK

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Adding fuel to the ‘we need more LFOs’ fire, are we? :smile:

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Always!

Although, technically it would be the same amount, just more freedom with the distribution.

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I think what sets the MD apart doesn’t lie in a single aspect/function. It’s a whole thing, or at least a set of things.

The sound is not unique but not that common. Some virtual drum machines can approach it, true.
Remove the synth engine and you can says bye bye to that sound.
Remove the sequencer and you… well, do not remove the Elektron sequencer :smiley:
The freely routable LFOs are something.
The MIDI machines, CTRL machines, are something too.

Not to mention the User Wave feaures. This sampling engine is insane, not like in “amazingly powerful” but more like in “both very limited and very open”. It is very strange.
I used it a lot some years ago, in various ways: I performed in improv’ sessions where I sampled other instruments, processed them and sent them back in the mix; I live-sampled a singer in a band context using the MDUW as a kind of enhanced faux-delay; and I even used the output sampling in song mode when I sampled a bar and next pattern was just a degraded version of the sample before a chorus for example… (makes sense ?..)

I think the MD is already a great drum machine, not sure I would instant buy it or keep it forever. The MDUW however is a keeper to me.

If you haven’t, have a look at the beginning of the OT manual, where they talk history. The OT idea actually came up when Elektron saw where the artists pushed the simple yet flexible sample engine of the MDUW. They thought “hey, why not putting even more of this in the next instrument!”…

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love the MD but not paying the high prices for a used one same with the MonoMachine. I can get decent results on newer Elektron gear.

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I was thinking of getting this machinedrum

I’m wondering about the encoders. On machinedrums I’ve used in the past, the knobs were the older kind and it would take many rotations to change values (unless holding down the encoder)

Would newer style digitakt/a4 style encoders be a lot more responsive for changing values? Or is it less about the encoders and more about the internal processor/software?

On my a4 mk1 the encoders are the same. Really slow to change values vs mk2 versions.

This is a long winded way of asking about knobs!

So the older devices used encoders, which have a finite angular resolution, I think around 24 steps per rotation. The mk2 devices and the digi’s use endless potentiometers, which send out analog signals which can be much more precise, which allows the digis to move the knob very slightly for minor adjustments, or quickly for more intense adjustments. This is an interplay between software and hardware, the software is doing the acceleration and smoothing, but the hardware is also more precise in the modern ones. But they are also electrically different, and have to be implemented differently.

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