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The modulating modulators update is officially out on stable release! Get your bouncy ball on. Official announcement pasted below:


Version 3.2.0 Released. Modulating modulators modulating. More file slices.

Firmware Update instructions have not changed. Read the readme.txt file if you need instructions.

Current M8 Firmware:

- New: Instrument Modulation can now modulate modulators
- Improved: Sampler supports up to 128 slice markers (from 32)
- Improved: Mute/Solo display in Song view next to track numbers
- Improved: Tracking modulation can now disable velocity to volume using "Velocity (Takeover)" as source.
- Improved: MIDI Input record channel now works with the "NOTE PREVIEW" setting in project view when auditioning notes
- Fix: Sample playback with LFO to loop start could have dropouts
- Fix: Wavsynth - Possible CPU too busy messages when playing back multiple tracks
- Fix: Possible crash with RMX FX command on retrieving song length (Hold OPT on song position with playback stopped)
- Fix: Hypersynth chord editing values could jump from previous chord edited value

Manual has been updated to 3.2.0 as well - https://dirtywave.com/support

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For those of you who missed the last pre-order:

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From which place is this message?

Discord, most probably.

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It’s from the Discord -> Announcement-page. As a rule of thumb: If you want to stay on top of updates, Discord is the place to be :slight_smile:

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I just played around a bit with the 3.2.0 firmware. Very nice, modulating the modulators is a lot of fun! One thing that’s not so clear to me is what parameters are modulated if mod rate is targeting an envelope modulator. I can hear that the envelope is changing, but I’m not 100% sure what exactly is happening. Sounds like it’s modulating all the envelope parameters?

It’s not really clear to me too but I think you’re right because the manual says :

ā€œMOD RATE - The rate is a multiplication factor of time related parameters.ā€

So by multiplying the env parameters, it should make them longer, sort of ?
And for an ADSR envelope, I imagine that the time related parameters are the ADSR parameters.

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For envelopes it would affect attack, decay, and release (if ADSR). It makes them longer from their initial value.

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Thanks a lot for the clarification! And thanks as well for implementing it this way, it’s perfect! I just made a very nice bass patch for a song I’m working on and the subtle movements the new modulation features can create are just what the song needed.

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I have no hate for the Mini, but I’d love if the Polyend Mini shipping was delayed, because @trash80 sourced the supply of a specific part for the m8!

I can finally get my adult Gameboy

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Late reply but in-ear monitors are pretty popular on the M8 Discord. I have a couple pairs and can vouch for Salnotes Zero, which go for a little over 20 USD. The tips are comfy but swapping those can greatly improve noise isolation.

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Preordered!
I had a first tracker experience with the nerdseq in eurorack which an amazing piece of hardware.
This time, I’m looking to use the M8 as sequencer and single device on the couch.

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for m8 version 2, whenever it comes out, I’d love to see a built-in mic for quick dirty sampling.

that and some mappable encoders.

and some performance fx.

woop :partying_face:

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Wondering if there’s anyone here with a similar experience to me. The M8 is like a unicorn device. I’ve not come across anything as feature rich and elegantly designed. It’s the best definition of a portable groove box I can think of. The fact that it gets such consistent updates is mind boggling.

However, I’m just not that good with the device. It feels like 4/5 of my attempts at a song with it just sound like garbage in audio form :sweat_smile:. BUT that 1/5 of the time, I get something I really like and it feels unique to the M8.

Ultimately though my brain just doesn’t translate music in a tracker, step sequencer way. It’s much faster and more natural to use a keyboard or even pads to interact with the music. I’m not even in a stage of life where portable music making is a benefit to me. I’ve also connected a keyboard or pad controller to get more expression out of it but then I think, ā€œwhy not just use one of the other more tactile samplers/groove boxes I own in the first place?ā€

All that to say, the M8 is a one of a kind device but not the device I’m most productive with. Much of me sees the wisdom in selling it to invest the little music making time I have into other devices I connect with more easily. However, I also struggle to let go of such a unique and high quality device.

Anyone felt similar and kept or sold their M8?

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Yes indeed.
My own conclusion is that I haven’t given it enough time: once you start to get muscle memory, it’s really fast.
But indeed, a very different workflow than the Elektron.
You got to focus on it alone for a while to get some fruits, I found.

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I completely agree with this. I have also not been very productive with my m8, but it is probably the most impressive musical device I can think of.

It also really does agree with my mind in the sense that I love having the option to have precise control over every aspect of the sound, down to the hex digit. It’s something I miss in some way on almost every other device.

However, the flip side of that is that m8 is, imo, the ultimate ā€œblank sheet of paperā€ device, at least for me. It can be daunting to get from nothing to something worthwhile on it, considering how much detail is available. (As well as the fact that jamming and/or ā€œhappy accidentsā€ are maybe not as easy to come by on the m8 as with elsewhere.)

So based purely on productivity, I should probably sell mine too. However it’s just too damn cool.

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I felt like that and ended up selling my first one. But that was a mistake so I bought a second one.

I’d say don’t limit yourself to the idea that you JUST have to make music with it. Make weird and unique loops and export them to your computer and develop a folder of shit that you come back later to in your DAW or Octatrack or whatever and make music from there. Don’t feel pressured to make a full song with any one piece of gear, even if it has the tools to do so.

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Previous experience with Sunvox helped get me out of the real-time-only sequencer mentality.

Working a lot with TR style sequencing on MC-707 also helped.

I did struggle with entering chord progressions - as the options were either use up one track per note of the chord, or learn some tracker commands I wasn’t used to. This video was very helpful at the time:

I anticipate relearning the M8 when I get around to it, as lot of changes were made to the firmware since that video was uploaded - new synth engine, new commands for working with chords on it, etc. No plans to sell as workflow is unbelievably quick once you get used to it.

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