Exactly, not yet at least. Also no :2 / x2 at this point, either, at least I haven‘t found it yet if it‘s there.
Bootup and loading times are a little longer than I would like, otherwise it‘s really just a very good looper. I‘ve been playing around with it for hours tonight, the 6x6 mode is the ish, haven‘t had this much fun in the studio in a long while.
100% great advice! Even after just a few hours tonight, I accidentally switched to 2x2 mode and was all over the place for the first few moments. I‘m sticking to 6x6 grid, it‘s the more fun mode for me anyway!
Any advice of looping drums. When I loop my Roland T8 or MPC Live sending MIDI sync to TC Electronic Flashback x4. I can hear phasing. Flashback is milliseconds out of time.
Yes, I would think that this is due to latency inherent in the signal chain. So when playing both the loop and the original source at the same time, they won’t be perfectly in sync.
Not familiar with the flashback so don’t know if this is an option, but the general way to avoid this would be to stop monitoring the source when the loop starts playing.
Thanks For both replies. The flashback does not offer visual feedback to know where in the loop i am and i want to concentrate on playing keys. I don’t want to be count beats and bars. The youtube video below the guy is not using a drum machine but he is using the Flashback x4.
Is just counting constantly or or perhaps so well versed in his music that he knows his loop points and position without much thought.
You shouldn’t play them both at the same time regardless. If they were perfectly in sync, you’d only end up with total phase cancelation. So, either way, you’re hooped.
To that end, the point of recording a loop is to have that loop effectively replace the source material.
And if you’re running a parallel send/return to the looper, you’ll need to enable the “thru mute” function on the looper as well, to avoid any real-time phasing.
I’m sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but counting beats and bars is one of the most important aspects of playing music, second only to comprehending the actual notes you’re playing.
In this case, presumably anyway (given the topic), you are aspiring to do some live looping; so, the onus of performing said music really is entirely on you, I’m afraid.
As for how Tribal is managing his loop points, he is almost certainly employing the ‘Master Loop’ functionality in Sync Mode.
If, on the other hand, he’s in Serial Mode, each loop will simply wait for the other to end before switching, so…
No visual cues required either way, because, you know… Chords and stuff.
I think i need a band or some backing tracks so i can enjoy noodling away without concentrating button pressing duties. Enjoying the creative/improv part without the technicalities lol. Maybe MIDI looping is the answer with changeable loop lengths And master clock to sent to other sequencers to keep time.
Just coming back to say that after using the Aeros Loop Studio for a bit, I can say it’s the best looper pedal I’ve ever used. It’s so much fun, the screen and waveform presentation is actually quite useful (orientation, timing, composition), the sound quality is excellent, 6x6 mode is unique and allows for some serious complexity AND control, mutes/solos are easy to make happen per track which allows for easy variation, especially with an additional midi controller going through, syncing options are fantastic & rock solid…it’s just really great and I’m happy I got it. I like it so much, I’m thinking about getting a second one for the living room.
Of course no product is perfect, so here are the things I think could be improved / might not be to everyone’s liking:
Bootup time: it takes the device some 15-20s to boot up. A classic looper pedal is ready instantly. Then you gotta create a new song or pick up where you left off. That’s another 5-10s till you can start looping. I think especially for people used to something that’s instant, this could be annoying.
Save & loading times: saving a song or loading a song takes a moment. It’s not bad at all, but again, if one’s used to eg a Boss looper, the Aeros will take a decent moment longer than eg a RC30 to load a song.
I/Os: this looper has two stereo inputs (of which one pair can be used as mono ins, so eg Guitar + Bass + Keyboard / Synth) and two stereo outputs. In general that’s fine, but given the awesome 6x6 mode, more I/Os could definitely be used with this device.
Screen: I was sceptical of the screen at first, now I’ve come to love it because it really helps me keep track of my loop lengths and overdubs. I can imagine that for some the screen might still be a turnoff though.
Gain staging: I’d love more control over gain staging of the inputs & outputs. Not necessary, but would still be nice to be able to eg attenuate the incoming signal manually if need be.
Track locking: locking a track will continue its playback across parts (serial looping). This is a really cool feature. Issue with it I’ve discovered though is that if you lock a track and then create a new part, there’s no way to unlock that track again. I think it would be more intuitive if locking/unlocking could happen on the fly across parts. I guess one issue would be “overlapping” serial loops, not knowledgable enough to know if this is something the devs could solve easily, but from a user perspective, if locking/unlocking were possible at all times, parts could be used like Ableton Scenes (and tracks like clips to mix n match) on the looper.
Overall, this is a fantastic looper and fairly intuitive to use, at least for me.
Added the ability to change the LED color for loop status.
Added the ability to adjust the track level on the mixer screen.
The tempo calculation method has changed when recording with no timing reference (rhythm/click off).
When the first track is recorded, the tempo is calculated and adjusted based on the memory’s current tempo setting. This provides a more accurate tempo and measure calculation, eliminating unintentional half-time or double-time results.
Added an option to display the rhythm edit pages by pressing the RHYTHM EDIT button.
Added an option to display the current track on the play screen when the EXIT button is pressed. The current track’s stop button blinks when this option is active.
Added an option to always display the current track when it’s selected. The current track’s stop button blinks when this option is active.
The DIST > VOCAL DIST effect type now supports stereo operation.
Bug Fixes
The following bugs have been fixed.
Fixed an issue where the Input FX/Track FX on/off state is not displayed correctly on the play screen.
Fixed an issue where the FX type name for an ASSIGN target may not appear.
Fixed an issue where memories may switch unintentionally during a loop performance.
Fixed an issue where the speed may not change at the beginning of a bar when SPEED CHANGE is set to LOOP END.
Fixed an issue with incorrect recording while changing the beat when Loop Sync mode is set to IMMEDIATE.
Fixed an issue where the ALL START/STOP indicator may not respond correctly when Loop Sync mode is set to IMMEDIATE.
Fixed an issue where the Input FX/Track FX bank buttons (A/B/C/D) may not respond when double-clicked.
Fixed an issue where the volume of the LPF, BPF, and HPF effect types may drop with high input signal levels.
Fixed several issues that could cause a looper data damaged message.
Fixed several issues that could cause a freeze and/or system error message.
The RC 505 MKI and same RC generation (44.1khz 16 bits) can theoretically record around 3h30m (2GB files max), on a microSd card ! (RC300, RC202…)
The RC 505 MKII and same generation records in 32 bits vs 16 bits, so time is less, still consequent (Edit : 1.5 hour per track apparently. 2GB files max too I guess. (RC600, RC500, RC5).
