Not so long ago I’ve got the Octatrack with the sole purpose of putting together a live-act from the pre-existing finished tracks in Ableton. I choose the Elektron way since I have an A4 and I love it so I though that an Octatrack will be ideal and stable instead of the classic Ableton / laptop / controller setup.
I came to some brick walls though and although I’ve tried to find a solution by myself, but mainly on this forum reading for hours and hours trying to find a solution since there are a lot of people that have way more experience.
No luck in finding the solution for my tracks so I though to explain you the situation and ask directly.
So, let me describe as short as possible what I want to achieve.
I have my songs done in Ableton. I’ve already grouped instruments to be able to add them on 5 of the Octatrack’s tracks:
- T1 - Kick
- T2 - Bass
- T3 - Hi-hats, percussion and Fx
- T4 - Melodic elements
- T5 - Focus elements (vocals, leads… etc)
- T6 - Internal re-sampling
- T7 - External synth input
- T8 - Master
My big problem is with the patterns (variations, evolution) of each track since my songs are constantly evolving and usually almost all the tracks (groups) have 6 to 10 variations throughout the length of the song.
I know I could take advantage of the 4 parts of Octatrack, but no mater what I do, I can’t reduce the variations of each track (group) to 4, the songs can’t make sense.
So, I export from Ableton each track (group) in 8 to 10 parts (patterns) of usually 16 bars.
As example, I load “ID_Kick_Part1” to Octatrack’s track 1, pattern 1 and do the same with the other rendered parts from Ableton (ID_Bass_Part1 - track 2, ID_Perc_Part1 - track 3… etc).
When I want to load the Part 2 samples on pattern 2, the only way I found is to load them as trig condition (I hope I am explaining this right). I hold the trig while choosing the Part2 sample from the browser and so on.
Since I cannot load more than 1 sample to each track without using parts, this is the only way I found.
I don’t think this is viable because I have no control over the trig condition samples loaded (slice, edit…etc) and also to me it seems a bit risky for a live-act situation, kind of volatile.
How do you see this situation?
What I am doing wrong?
There are other ways that I’ve failed to discover for songs played live with more than 4 variation per track?
After 2 months of constant struggling to find a solution and countless sleepless nights thinking about it, I’m starting to think that I made the wrong decision trying to take Octatrack for live-act, for my current song style, of course.
Although I love Elektron and also Octatrack (love to play and make music with it - powerful gear), with my specific way of making songs (evolving and constantly changing patterns) I should of gone for the classic setup for live with Ableton / laptop / controller.
Your input regrading this is greatly appreciated, and I would be thrilled to find out a solution to be able to make it work, there’s nothing more I want that to take the Octatrack for live-act, instead of a laptop.
If I can help with any other relevant information, I will be more than happy to provide it, just ask.