Korg OPSIX

Off topic but I like the Kms20 mini keyboard way better. The k37 feels like the spring is too tight.

Anyone know when the opsix will arrive in AUS? December ish?

I’d much prefer the reface series keybed over wavestates.

But yeah I think you should try it and make up your own mind.

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Work has been a mare this week so only getting a chance to catch-up on this now… and oh my!! I’m really digging what Korg have done with the sound engine and the interface here. There are so many interesting features to explore and find new combinations of and the interface does a great job of making that enticing. The contrast against with the years (and years, and years!) that I spent trying to tame my old FS1r couldn’t be starker.

One thing that I find curious from reading a lot of the comments in the thread is where folk are drawing comparisons with the digitone and others. For me, the area of crossover between these synths is miniscule in comparison to similar price-bracketed analogue synths that are generally considered to be quite different.

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Is there a ratio you can’t get with that range? I haven’t run into that as a practical limitation. Actually, the ratio offsets offer way more resolution that 0-127 between the +/-1 values. You won’t get to sweep through all the midi notes, but you can achieve the same effect.

The digitone does a good job of approximating this, you just stack voices if the :lips: menu and combine algorithms until you have the desired configuration.

I guess it’s just a matter of what limitations you are ok with.

I can patch arbitrarily complex algorithms already using Audulus or MAX, and I can definitely confirm that past 4 oscillators you experience diminishing returns in the expansions to the sonic palette. I really have come to appreciate the balance between multitimbrality and complexity that the DN achieves.

If I were to compare it to painting, something like MAX is the big palette with all the weird earth tones and rare pigments that look like iridescent gold and all that. The digitone is like the pocket watercolor box with 3 primaries, green, and a couple of browns. At first mixing is a chore then you realize these were the only colors you really needed, you just layer and tone.

To continue my critique of the OPSIX in this metaphor, it is like a medium sized palette but you are only allowed to mix one color at a time and paint on a postcard. Korg’s 16 step sequencers are really only interesting to me when the device is also being sequenced externally also.

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We are talking about different things. The ratio offset is something else then the Level of the operators. I am talking about the level and not about the ratio offset. I can get to every ratio I want.

I know this. Sure you can get a ā€œ2-voiceā€ 16 operator synth if you stack the different synths on top of each other. :slight_smile:

Don’t get me wrong I like the Digitone it is just some stuff I miss and would like to be a bit different. Especially a split for Operator B so they become are fully independent operators.

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This would be such an attractive synth to me if Korg had stepped up the build quality. It still is attractive, actually — I’m considering getting one, but maybe I should hold out for the inevitable Modal FM synth — that can’t be more than six months away. It seems like they’re making sturdier synths with better keyboards.

I’m sure Korg knows their business best, but I think people are drifting toward modular and hardware because they want a tactile experience. These plastic things don’t offer a very good one. The first time I touched a Volca, I just thought it was total crap and I still have felt no desire for one. The guts are likely top notch — I don’t doubt Korg in that area, but I wonder if they’re not cheapening their brand with all these toy boxes.

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Just watched a video comparing the opsix to a dx7.
The first patch on the opsix sounded shit. Sounded very low bit rate and also distorting.
Well too bad, I already preordered.

link? im pretty sure that’s not possible considering the DACs in the opsix to a dx7 are higher spec.

When you load DX7 patches, the OPSix apparently automatically selects the ā€œ12 Bit Sineā€, hence the lo-fi sound. Also the envelopes are quite different in the OPSix so I can’t imagine the patches translating particularly well.

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Have a listen and tell us what you think.
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interesting , did they try to do a DAC emulation? im sure it can be selected surely

The osc’s have 12bit or hd versions.

I appreciate him doing the comparison, must have been a challenge to find similar patches, but his dx7 is so noisy here. My mk1 is not that bad.

imo the opsix comes out looking pretty good. The original is always going to have a darker tone because it can’t produce clear high harmonics like the opsix. But I suppose you can always filter those out with one of the many filters korg provides. 12bit operators were a nice feature.

Wow, and I just have to add, that part at 3:10 where he hits a low note was really impressive on the opsix. The opsix gets that rattly sound that the dx7 mk1 does, whereas the dx7 mk2 in 16bit doesn’t have the same grit.

You bought it for that feature? Cuckoo said in his video that they won’t sound the same. I think it sounds close enough but I would buy the Opsix for the numerous modern exciting features it has.

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the OPSIX looks like a very cool synth, but I keep returning to the somewhat frustrating reality of the synth having a generous amount of polyphony while at the same time not being multitimbral.

are there any videos so far that focus on the ā€œhackā€ of switching programs while notes are being played which appears to let the already played notes continue with the sound of the first program and then adding notes with the new program’s sound?

It seems like with an Elektron sequencer one could at least approach a bitimbral use of the synth. Like establishing a drone with the first program and then playing a melody atop that with a second program?

Sorry if I did a terrible job explaining what is in my head.
Cheers.

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:+1:

I’m actually grateful, it’s a great that it’s monotimbral because that way I don’t want to buy it and I am that much closer to buying the next proper elektron release.

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Now that’s positive thinking :grin:
Isn’t it bi timbral since you can do keyboard split?

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:sob:

Oh no, I could get by on bi timbral…

holding out for the desktop. Yeah, that’s the ticket!

It is indeed a strange decision since the Wavestate has four parts timbrality.
However it’s not something I’m bothered by since I have the DN for that.

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ah, now that is even cooler.
get a keyboard split drone going and then switch programs to noodle on top with.