Dude. The Monkees was a TV show for kids about a fictional band. Where the actors / musicians eventually worked to make themselves into a real band. Get over your disappointment. It’s not remotely the same situation.
It would be much better to discuss how ghosts producing for DJs is a precursor to what’s happening with AI and fake bands.
But please. Let’s not start talking about The Partridge Family next, and how it was a horrible fraud that they didn’t all sing on the album. 
it’s technically better than me at drums, bass, guitar, and piano but not at rapping or levels of funk yet. 
To be fair, Milli Vanilli is the story of a sleazy producer who took advantage of two dumb kids who wanted to get famous and then found themselves caught in a pretty shitty situation.
The Banana Splits were legit right? Lancelot Link And The Evolution Revolution?
If your definition of genre involves well-established procedures for music-making, then, yes, I suppose you are right.
Copying style is an honorable form of music making, but only to the extent that it is not an end in and of itself. Mozart’s adolescent compositional output is considered by musicologists to be derivative and not extraordinary. Only later, after learning to copy style, did he compose truly original works. IMO, the same musical evolution is unlikely from AI.
It’s the listeners, rather than the musicians, who aren’t up to the level of AI. They confuse well-applied turd polish with good music.
Don’t know. But now I’m worried Alvin and the Chipmunks didn’t sing Christmas Don’t Be Late! 
Alvin and the Chipmunks lol. Nah, see, the person who voiced Alvin is credited as such (Ross Bagdasarian Jr.). That’s all I’m asking for - if it’s Hal Blaine, just say so. If it’s a drum machine, just say so. If it’s AI, just say so. But please, don’t lie about it.
I think inevitably AI will make some good music. It was trained on all of the best music (though that is subjective of course) ever created so how can it not? I think we’re at the point now where if you played two songs for someone that are in a similar genre, most average people, including many musicians, couldn’t consistently say which is human and which is AI. Rick Beato says he can’t tell anymore - it’s that good already. 5 years from now? Forget about it.
That’s why we need transparency. When it comes to AI, my fear is that the major record labels all the way down to some dude in his PJs with a laptop are going to try and convince us AI music was created by humans with the thought that we are then more likely to give credence to something we wouldn’t otherwise and ultimately hand over our money for it. There was just a post on here recently where someone claimed a clip they posted was a new track they were working on. Based on the previous things this person had posted, it was immediately questioned if it was AI or not and some cagey responses followed by the OP…
But I guess this is the world we’ve lived in for quite some time now. Pop stars have been lip-syncing on TV for about as long as TV has been on the air. I must admit I get a chuckle watching videos of Bon Scott strut his stuff on some 70s show to the studio track. But even that is different - he sang those songs originally and I can accept some show biz. Auto-tune has been in full swing for some time now, and so on. Engineers have been making live takes better going all the way back to making edits of analog tape… But you have to draw the line somewhere between what is too fake., and what isn’t.
I gotta say, I 1000% appreciate someone like Jeanne who shows her machines playing the track, straight from the box - no bullshit. We need more of that and more than ever
I suppose that pretty soon AI will also help you create a video that makes it look like your machine is playing the track so ultimately, it’s probably not for too much longer where that will be useful for determining creative input from the author.
I mean I’d like to say that it’s not but fuck it, if they can’t tell the difference between AI music and real music, we’re way beyond will smith eating spaghetti as far as what they can do with AI video prompts.
I suppose you’re right. I guess we all get to look forward to deep fake videos in the “post something” thread
Nope. Ross is not credited on the Christmas album as the vocalist. Alvin, Simon, and Theodore get top billing as the vocalists, with also a mention of David Seville.
Although if you look at the vinyl label, Ross does get credited with some of the arrangements. But not the vocals.
I guess you better go after them! Massive fraud. How horrible! It’s just like AI! 
Look up the first Chipmunks record (1959) and you will see Ross Bagdasarian credited - I didn’t look up every single one lol
Hopefully you get the point however. And besides, I’m not the one who brought up Chipmunks…
If the argument in favor of AI rest on the laurels of quality then we’ve lost the plot already. Why would any reasonable person care about how good of a musician someone or something is who is exploiting, and mistreating you?
There are good tools and bad tools just like there are good people and bad people, and good people and bad people who have the skill to make good tools and bad tools for good reasons and bad reasons.
High regard for AI low regard for HI FFS
The fact that people are willing to support and allow AI to do to people, what they would not support and allow other people to do to people is dumbfounding.
I think I get it now. It’s only a problem for you if they lie on the first release. It’s okay if they lie on later releases
I think I’ve made it pretty clear I’m not a fan of the lie. If they didn’t credit the people who voiced the chipmunks on later releases, they should have. Just like they should credit whoever is programming Superior Drummer 2 (or whatever drum plugin) on many modern metal records lol
Well, as it turns out, Ross wasn’t credited on the first album release as the vocalist either. He is listed as a producer on the album. Has a special message where he complains about Alvin. And is not listed on the vinyl label at all.
But anyway, you don’t have to reply and hate on Ross. I don’t think anybody else really cares that the vocals are credited to David Seville and the chipmunks.
Meh whatever. Again, I hope you get the point. Films credit stunt doubles for example and musical works should always credit who did the singing/playing/programming. If that’s AI, credit AI.
What did Peter Thiel ever say or do to you to make you think he loves you and should be empowered with AI, is his Spotify playlist that incredibly gratifying to listen to, or does he just hate whomever you hate so much that you feel like you just cannot go another day without the free reign of AI being in his capable hands.
Grok says all your bass belongs to us,and neural link is gonna force everyone to dance like Elon
I mean that new plugin is literally called Co-Producer, but you don’t want to give it any co-producer credit🤣
I think something like a simple “Mix assisted by AI” in the credits would suffice. If the song was pretty much entirely created by AI, something like “Performed and Arranged by Suno AI” would do