Exactly! So the empty screen you’re looking at is only page 1 of up to three pages full of FX magic that far surpasses the DT (and that is even before adding busses etc.).
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Nice 
thank you for clarifying!
Obviously, I don’t have one yet, and have just been learning through video presentations, so this thing is still a bit of an enigma for me.
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Every damn day 
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Lol.
Explain yourself.
I just use em a lot. Even sometimes on the master fx track as a sort of control all for breaks and transitions
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I use all three as send effects on a regular basis too! Parallel processing is awesome for all three, that way you keep your original signal and blend in the affected signal in whatever ratio you like. I wouldn’t say that it’s unusual by any means to do this. I always have a bit reduction pedal on one of the sends of my mixer, and often an Analog Heat as well.
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Does the response/feel of the Encoders is more on par with the other Elektron boxes with the latest OS?
Once the MIDI issues are worked out, I’m looking forward to connecting my Pro 3 to it. I don’t want to deal with the frustration of known issues right now…
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Not quite. It’s slightly laggy. And there’s an issue where you can’t dial in some values (72 I believe is skipped on env release param.)
Not sure why endless encoder positions are interpolated so coarsely or with what feels like rounding errors but I’m guessing it’s fixable.
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I always thought having this type of processing through sends was likely to cause phasing issues, making your output sound muddy or weak.
I guess if you change the sound enough and eq/filter it properly it could be a cool effect?
Oops, just realized which thread I’m in, this is a little off topic, haha. Sorry.
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If I didn’t already own a digitakt 2 and was planning on getting a sampler from elektron I’d be looking at the tonverk. I have so much fun playing the digitakt but all the extra features on the tv would win. But now the Mpc live3 is only a 150aus more than the TV id probably consider that if its sequencer has been improved.
I think the tonverk will get stable firmware and a few extras maybe slicing or something and it will make the digitakt even less attractive to new buyers unless it also gets some big updates too.
It seems like a can of worms has been opened, and it makes the sampler choice muddled.
I say this as an observation from someone with no expertise in anything so the reality is probably very different.
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I’m seeing (though maybe very wrong) that the Tonverk is to be elektron’s take on the Torso S4/OP1F with a bit of Chase Bliss thrown in, but with that ‘Volvo’ sort of heavier-metal approach to sequencing, machines and UI.
I’m less expecting they’ll ‘add forward’ functionality from the DT for drum enthusiasts, and more expecting they will further distinguish the TonVerk as a musical pastiche tool for whatever genre you like but it is philosophically ‘tapes’ and FX, sequenced.
Total speculation, but I would be surprised, if not disappointed, if elektron making it more like past machines is an objective.
I’ll go further to giddily expect, once they have these bug fix firmware releases out of their way, they will pitch their camp in new modulateable multitrack composition territory within the elektron paradigm rather than aim to compete with some of the competitor machines of late. Nobody needs another DAW in a box.
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Good point, but to be honest I do not see any Tape related feature in the current state of TV - I see a sampler with a lot of FX, routing possibilities, multisample feature topped up with the Elektron sequencer we all love.
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I expect you’re right and I look forward to seeing what they add. I don’t want to see another daw in a box either but I don’t think we’re in danger of that happening.
I’m a fan of the tonverk and if I didn’t have a dt2 and tonverk was stable I’d be seriously looking into getting one. I personally don’t think a couple of standard sampling features such as warp or slicing would make it a daw or too complicated/ unfocused, the digitakt has features I don’t use but they don’t get in the way and I’m glad they’re there just in case I start using them.
If I could dream for a moment I’d like to see both machines exchange a couple of features. Digitakt with crossfade and a couple of notes polyphony and tonverk with slicing and warp, then if I was a new customer I might buy the digitakt.
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I accidently found this post on reddit … would have been great to use a new topic or the news section with a link to the statement.
Glad I’ve found this message…
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Yep exactly. Tonverk or Digitakt is never never going to be a DAW in a box. Tonverk is more complex perhaps than other devices, less immediate maybe, but by no means a DAW, and that would include even when it gets some additional features.
100% agree. I can understand the working theory that you might segment the devices based on the idea that DTII=rhythmic, TV=melodic, but I don’t think that argument holds up.
That’s not least because Digitakt is now sold as an all round sampler not just a drum machine. If Elektron didn’t want Tonverk to overlap too much with DT’s rhythmic capabilities, they could have done that by not having sub tracks filled almost exclusively with drum samples.
Even from a creative standpoint, the exclusion also feels pretty arbritrary. Chopping isn’t only a rhythmic tool. I’ve seen more producers slice as a melodic or textural element in their music than anything else.
Lastly just from a competitive point of view now OP-XY has it, I believe Tonverk stands alone as the only 1k+ sampler that doesn’t slice—in fact it may now be the only sampler on the entire market that doensn’t do it. Yes there’s the S-4 but that is sold exclusively as a textural/experimental sampler, (and it’s also a lot cheaper.) If that’s what they were going for, it might make more sense to have it in Digi form and remove the drum features completely.
As much as I’m all for having devices with their own way of doing things, I can’t see this omission working out. It’s the sort of thing that will get Tonverk noticed for the wrong reasons.
For those reasons and more I hope it will get added in the first major firmware revision once all the bugs are squashed.
The way I’d like to see it is as you say, can choose the Digitakt with 4 note polphony, as a straightforward sampler that helps you get stuff done for a bit less money. Or you can pick the Tonverk which is more of a workstation, with way more polyphony, tracks and effects, so you can explore a bit further than Digitakt would allow you to with its limitations.
This would also make sense if you imagine a future where Elektron adds a synth variant to the new platform. That wouldn’t replace or devalue Digitone, but it would offer more voices, and more effects to process them with, and you can decide which flavour you like best.
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What is the maximum recording time when playing an external synth into Tonverk?
Also can I ‘record’ from the sequencer - and can that be longer than whatever time it takes to complete the maximum 256 steps?
6 mins
You’ll find the exact answer somewhere else (in the manual or Tonverk technical Q&A thread), but short answer: You can record around 6 minutes directly into Tonverk. You have options to record exact step length samples, but the highest available number is 256 steps, if you want to go longer, you’re only left with “maximum “, which is I think 6 minutes and 6 seconds (or it will stop earlier once you hit stop).
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