For basslines or some melodic stuff it would be cool if you can hit record and go into chromatic mode, then playing bass in realtimerecording…just checked the demo, there it’s not possible…
Yeah, intriguing bordering on baffling! I feel I’m pretty familiar with and have a decent understanding of Elektron’s “cards to the chest” communication style but why they’d expand in such detail in a personal email while simultaneously avoiding the same/similar questions on the forum is beyond me.
Leaves me to surmise that either A) they’re behind on/super busy with all things Digitakt or B) they’re doing an experiment to see how deep loyalty runs in taking pre-orders for a vaguely specced machine
All academic for me since I don’t see this for me being a Rytm owner.
Keep in mind that one is official for support and the other (here) isn’t
sure, they contribute occasionally here, but responses shouldn’t be expected every time
It was a quite enlightening reply indeed, how long before the AR owners get sore … I’ve always disliked the approach adopted for start/end … position/length is much better …i’m quietly confident a new LFO target could be added to allow varying Start+End simultaneously
What would be really nice is some demos of just the reverb and delay effects (maybe SoundCloud?). That’s the main sell for me right now; a small form-factored box I can use to sequence a 4-voice poly, apply reverb to, and mix with the mono signal of an analog drum machine being sequenced by the DT as well.
frankly this is what the brits would call “bog standard” when it comes to samplers…
exactly… so im not exactly sure what makes it so “tasty” … unless youve never had something like this ever before… which seems a bit odd - even software samplers have been doing far more than this for decades now
Old samplers and softies Haven’t had p-locks, and ability to record loop point everywhere and then there’s those knobs
the ars10, eps was king of the loop point modulation but man it could be slow and the asr, eps memory glitch ghost scan crash feature when you pulled the loop points together was less controlled than a sample slot scan and lfo.
I’m still pretty new to all this, but seems like this kind of functionality would allow for some stuff similar to Samplr etc on ipad? Which can be fun/interesting. Not sure if the touch interface is any better/worse for that stuff? Prob both some pros/cons. P-locks vs fluid hands on. Price…
Or maybe they’re totally different functions and I’m not seeing the big picture yet…Interested to see this box in some videos.
Yeh that’s about right,iPad sampler, also ableton simpler and sampler and tal sampler I think. Nothing more boring than a soft sampler I reckon.
I’d be fun it there was a grains engine so you could p-lock grains of sound within the loop points.
Why? That’s a pretty sweeping statement All digital and sound basically the same or different flavours and Push/ipad are decent/inspiring in their own way in terms of hardware interface? Not saying I don’t like hardware samplers (I have OT, Op1, Sp404/555 and Microsampler. And prob grabbing mpc live). But I’m not gonna buy one if it doesn’t add anything significantly new for me to warrant its price. Or alternatively accumulate a bunch of stuff on my other hardware in to one box for major convenience/practical reasons etc…
I think that’s the thing that bugs me with the DT. Surely digital things like this should be more ‘accumulative’ in terms of functions as time moves on/tech is cheaper and more powerful. Kinda tired of companies that take 10 classic functions away and add 2 modern ones. It should all be in there. Not the kitchen sink. But all the staple stuff at least. People always say ‘but then they’d have nothing else to build/sell’, but thats BS. As tech/power increases after that they can add even weirder stuff/more tracks/better quality & more varied fx etc… Just really surprised at the sparse core sampling functions on this. No slicing/timestreching/stereo options/tiny memory/no polyphonic track options/minimal fx types etc… In 2017, wtf… Still haven’t heard from anyone whether it even has internal resampling? And things like no insert reverb or delay means no p-lock stuff on those fx without it effecting everything sent to it. On OT I’m always messing with the individual insert delays and verbs in totally different ways to each other. Sucks to see none of that kind of stuff included here as a given so many years after OT…
And are there any arpeggio or performance functions? Arpeggio rules on OP1 for finding random drums/percussion… Guess you could kinda use the lfo for this on DT on a long sample/loop. But there goes your LFO and its also tedious and not really the same, especially without being able to arpeggiate slices etc. Ugh… Just all seems like really obvious stuff to include…
I never said they did. Dont try to claim a victory by moving the goal post.
All Im saying is that the sampler functions are very basic and standard, and mostly the same as every other sampler since the 80s. People who are thinking this is something new and unexpected are simply uninformed.
When they talked about having a one-shot sampler, these are exactly the most expected functions you can have.
And even with all that said, usually those functions were able to be modulated by any given MIDI sequencer, so thats nothing new either. P-locks themselves arent new for Elektron. Its all very expected stuff.
Hey if you want to be excited about it - go crazy. Get naked, all that kind of thing.
Agree with everything you said. There should be poly, no doubt about that.
Software wise:
I kinda like abeltons looper but nothing in software has ever come close to the asr/eps, for me, in sound and synth sampler options. Dunno, software seems to bore my in general.
Btw, I just had a tinker with ipad storm sampler and I really like that, it’s really innovative and hands on - thanks void for the work here. Hope to interface it with the AR soon.
On topic : could the DT become a kind of UW stand alone sampler update for the ar? Wonder if there will be a quick sample transfer link up between the DT and AR?
The uw upgrade was $500aud here. I got one of the last UW upgrades back in the day.
Nah,I was just trying to add objectivity about the difference (the new info adds a bit more to discussion) , pretty much agree with what you are saying. Plocks and the sequencer on elektrons are still bloody good stuff and groundbreaking. Pretty much endless modulation.
You guys make out I’ve re posted some already available lame stuff and bigged it up. I was just sharing some information I got.
Do what you want with it, including buy a vintage sampler. Makes no difference to anyone els, Was jus was sharing something official.
DT will be what it will be, you’d be naive to think it won’t have its own tricks (as would elektron be) my guess is DT is all about workflow over features. It is what it is.