Good and insightful videos. There’s so much this synth can do and those gnarly wave table patches tells me it’s going to be a sound designers dream. It’s growling!
Looking so much forward to get that module!
Not sure if noted already and never bought from these guys before but KMR in UK are taking preorders.
KMR is a good shop with some eye watering studio gear. I just bought an ssl fusion on credit from them. When I called they took a lot of time to discuss what I was looking for in detail.
I recall at least one of the filters being inspired by a Eurorack module. The formant one? I forgot.
If there are more coming, maybe he’s thinking of other Eurorack filters.
I had an answer confirming that the synth would be distributed in Europe no problem on that side. When the synth is on sale we will find it. But nevertheless I do not have stores to give you.
This synth is going to be lot of fun
Just don’t know do i go with keys or module. Module format looks so great but poly after touch and ribbon… oh man!
But i could have module always in a bag, and it has poly pads, i like this poly pads, wonder how they feel?
That’s the Threeler filter. If you’re wondering what is a Threeler see this post above.
I don’t know where the formant filter comes from, but it’s kind of a stock thing on wavetable synths isn’t it. I think of the Waldorf NW1 (speaking of Eurorack modules) which gives you an option to type in phrases too. (Now i’m wondering if that’s done through filters or if it’s the way they sequence wavetables.) I like that you can re-order the vowels on the Hydrasynth.
Another set of filters on the Hydrasynth sourced elsewhere are the MS-20 filters. I notice there is a fair amount of oohing and aahing over on the Behringer K-2 thread listening to the K-2’s filters. I wonder how the Hydrasynth and the K-2 filters would compare side by side? Pure digital vs pure analog.
Modor as a manufacturer has also been / is big on formant filters but it´s not really hard to achieve in a digital synth, so guess you are right there.
Regarding MS-20 simulations there´s also been other ones before - there´s one very cool filter module in euro, called “Freak” by Vult that has a bunch of digital simulations of filters - i think 10-12 of them and one is MS-20. Supposed to be very good, and i have it on my preorder list but suddenly i´m in the process of selling all my euro and instead so…
I´m probably getting a hydrasynth instead, since i realise most of the modules i´ve bought has been about cool digital voices and wavetables.
Posted in “Share something” thread instead.
The Hydrasynth has very sophisticated options for the control of the stereo image signal path.
I think i’ve got this down now:
There is a mixer in between the oscillators and the filters. Both filters, whether in series or in parallel, are stereo filters – meaning all 11 filter options are stereo.
You can pan the three oscillators and noise source/ring-mod separately between the left and right stereo channels going into the filters. So you have four stereo signals going toward the filters.
And then, if the two filters are arranged in parallel, you can mix those four stereo signals (one each for the three oscillators and one for the noise source/ring-mod) between the two filters.
I’m pretty sure this can all be controlled with the mod matrix as well.
And then after the filter (if in parallel) the two stereo signals are mixed back together and go to the amp.
Listen to Sweetwaters Deep Dive Hydrasynth video starting at 20:30, where Daniel Fisher goes through this all.
It’s a little overwhelming at first, but it should get clearer after using it for a while.
I’m thinking that i might put two or three dummy patches together, each with some preferred filter mixes, and then start with those when making oscillator patches after that.
While waiting for the Hydrasynth i’ve got some time to plan the organization for patch design. Wish there was a manual available.
I see my neighbor put up his own Knobcon video. Well, he’s practically my neighbor, he lives in the area. His PPG 2.3 was the first real wavetable synth I got to try in person - safe to say he’s familiar with the classic wavetable sound. Seems to like the Hydrasynth - will definitely ask him next time I see him.
I have the Intellijel Korgasmatron 2 - my favourite filter by far (MS20 clone)
Regarding stereo filters, and the handling of stereo effects, is also a central theme in this recent video by Tim Shoebridge that compares analog and digital:
219 * 218 * 217 * 216 * 215 * 214 * 213 * 212 =
4,649,238,131,411,341,440 – 4.65 quintillion
That’s how many different 8 wavetable wide wave scan tables you can construct on the Hydrasynth without duplicating wavetables inside them.
Curious behavior. If you land and stay on the wave scan at the center of a wavetable there are only 219 different ways that can sound. But if you land and stay at the point half way between two wavetables, at the half and half morph point there are 219 * 109 different ways that can sound or 23,871. So if you stay at one point along the wave scan, stay at some odd morphing point.
Of course this doesn’t account for the fact that there are three oscillators that can be traversing wave scan wavetables, and two of those oscillators have two mutants each, plus all the mixes and filters and settings and effects, and up to eight of those notes, and rhythms, and everything … and then you move your finger a centimeter along the ribbon controller.
There’s a catch phrase about people preferring analogs synths because they never sound the same twice. So perhaps it’s Hydrasynth digital that’s the new analog.
I Revised the Mathematics:
Always sleep a night on your math. For the second calculation, the combination of two waves. I originally had 219 * 218. That’s good for a first thought, i remove the case of a wave combined with itself. But if you think of it like a multiplication table, combining A and B -> A x B = B x A. Wave morphing is commutative. So instead it’s 218 + 217 + 216 + … + 3 + 2 + 1 which is the same as 219 * 109 = 23,871. Still a large number, so my point stands: There are more morphed combinations of waves, than waves alone by themselves.
The first calculation i’ll stand by but it brings up some questions: Do you call a wave-scan in reverse order as being the same? -AND- Is the Hydrasynth wave-scan circular, i.e. do you go from the end around back to the beginning. Answering YES to either question changes the calculation.
I think these are the inspiration for the custom mod wheels on the Hydrasynth.
The Abbey Road EMI REDD .37 Console faders. Notice the hardware below them that allows you to gang two faders together.
Hydrasynth Mod Wheels
Yep they came out and said this is the case.
Does anyone in this thread work for ASM, or is being compensated by them in any way?
We just love gear man! Don’t you?
Good video GovernorSilver. SynthMania plays really well.
I almost thought SynthMania was doing his version of Also Sprach Zarathustra by Richard Strauss at around 9:30 in. That’s the music used in the movie 2001. I was waiting for the kettle drums to come in. The bass note he uses is close.
Lol I soooo do, some of these posts are feeling a little like guerrilla marketing though. That synthmania video sounds reaaaal good btw.