Hydrasynth from ASM

My wife says I have the emotional range of a rock, if that helps.

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Aftertouch Curve Adjustments:

System Settings Page 3, #6 Aftertouch Curve “AT Crv”.

I love the choices with it:

  • Very Soft
  • Soft
  • Natural
  • Sigmoid (which stands for Sigmond Freud :grin:)
  • Hard
  • Very Hard

Plus there is also adjustments for four other aftertouch factors on that same page:

  • Delay
  • Fade
  • Offset
  • Release

I played with them all along the way to decide how i thought they should best be set. I should visit this again now that my aftertouch playing has improved.

ADDED: I expect the Osmose to be adjustable something like this too.

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I am absolutely in love with the Hydrasynth. It’s sounds great, is very intuitive to program, and is incredibly deep.

Correct me if I’m wrong and there is some way around this, but the only thing I don’t like is that when I turn it on, it doesn’t go back to the last state I used it in. Maybe, I’m just spoiled by Elektron and Mutable gear, but that’s a feature I would love to have.

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No we’re not going to correct you. Up thread is some discussion of this. The reason given has to do with the time it takes to store permanent values. (Notice the pause whenever you do a store, like after a System Settings change.) If there was a store done every time you went to a new patch things would really be slowed down.

(I think the storage speed has to do with the technology used for non-volatile storage.)

What i have done as a kind of alternative option, is using the patch manager to keep my active patches in the low numbers of bank A. Given the change in the latest firmware release that allows you to jump between the base of the banks quickly with the Shift – Patch Change Knob, you can increase the places you store your active patches to the low numbers (and the high numbers) of all banks. So Five places.

There are also ways to quickly navigate patch storage using the browser, which was discussed up thread.

The advantage to the predictable way the Hydrasynths works when powered up, is you will always know where you are and can predictably navigate from there.

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Thanks for clarifying, Jukka. I’ll scroll on up and see what was discussed.

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@therockfrog

Here’s some speculation on the new Artruria synth

Sorry, I was thinking about the responsiveness of the Hydra pads - in other words the sensitivity to being hit. Was confusing myself by linking this to the CME’s aftertouch - will go and try one of the hard settings, see if it will handle the CME’s output range better (good idea, thanks for suggesting!)

Edit: OK I took a sober look at this and my issue boils down to a mismatch between the response I’ve set to suit the Hydra’s pad aftertouch and the usual output of the CME. Trying the extreme options of the Hydra’s settings don’t make a massive difference to the way the CME drives the synth but do seriously change the way the onboard pads interact. Fortunately, there’s an app for the CME that can supposedly change its own output curve - so that’s my next port of call. Thanks for the pointers. :slight_smile:

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Does anyone know if there’s a fitting decksaver for the desktop version out already?

there isnt one out yet,

they havent showed one is in production either…

anxiously waiting for one though :slight_smile:

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I just kindly asked https://www.decksaver.com/ to produce one :slight_smile:

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Hi!
I noticed that you can alter the curves of the envelopes.
Do you think it’s possible to make really snappy percussion sounds with it?

Yeah there’s tones of different curves for this. I guess Hydra can make great percussion sounds indeed. I’ll try some later this week

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For a snappier snap turn SNAP MODE ON (Voice Page 3, #8) in your patch. It was added with Firmware Version 1.3.1 . The envelope was plenty snappy before, but this improves the performance in the first milliseconds. I’ve experimented and you can hear the difference particularly in the lower frequencies. See earlier post.

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It’s really feature packed! Impressive! Thx guys!

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I had mentioned HydraMorph before. It’s a Mac based software product (Windows 10 now too — ADDED) that through NRPN control allows you to modulate 366 parameters on the Hydrasynth. You can sort of think about it as if you had 366 LFOs and a really big Mod-Matrix.

It’s a new product that’s either close to completion, or very recently completed.

Here’s a really trippy example of what someone has done using HydraMorph.

If you listen closely you can hear the Hydrasynth core of this, but you can also tell there is something else happening here as well. It’s in the breadth and fluidity of the control. I believe this video is done entirely without external effects or use of other synthesis – although there is a Neutron in the background on the shot, and pitch and gate CV outputs are connected from the HSD. Nice use of the delay in this.

Listening to this will also give some clue as to what is possible once a more complete seqencer or external controller is used that integrates with the NRPN controls.

One example of the depth that is part of this approach – you could set up eight macros that control multiple parameters, and then externally to the HS you can, through NRPN, modulate those eight Macros simultaneously. Run the same sequence over the same patch, with just changes made to the eight Macros will give an entirely different performance. But things can go way deeper than that too.

This is part of the reason i mentioned a Hydrasynth-NRPN friendly sequencer up thread. Stay tuned.

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Are there any plans to make the Hydrasynth multitimbral?

Good question.

A multitimbral Hydrasynth – perhaps that’s a next ASM product ? A Hydrasynth Module might be one way to do that.

A firmware change to do that sounds doubtful. Glen has said that there is not much room left for anything apart for some few things. So i don’t think that is likely.

ADDED:


The Hydrasynth Module
Module Select function via the main screen and eight select buttons. $525
ADDED: This is imaginary.

Module Select Functions on the Eight Master Controls -- Detail:

[Button] – (Knob)

  • [Oscilators] – (1,2,3)
  • [Mutants] – (1,2,3,4)
  • [Ring/Noise] – ( )
  • [Mixer] – ( )
  • [Envelopes] – (1,2,3,4,5)
  • [LFOs] – (1,2,3,4,5)
  • [Filter] – (1,2)
  • [FX] – (Amp, PreFX, Delay, Reverb, PostFX)
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Wait - is this a real thing? Or is it some hope-ware vaporware?

If real, this is interesting, but also could be confounding given that I prefer a more immediate playing surface. However, if it’s not too bad to edit / tweak presets, then this could be an awesome companion for OT.

As i said up thread:

Good idea – If this is just a control surface lower the price another $150. Give it USB MIDI host and TRS MIDI. And then, minus the synth engine, it doesn’t have to be made by ASM.

What i was thinking of was primarily a module under control of some sort of external ASM product. Really was going after the idea of how to do a multi-timbral Hydrasynth, with an external module, vs adding a HSD, or making a complete multi-timbral Hydrasynth product.

Dream-ware is a better term for it – i have no hope really that this thing would ever be done.

Oh gotcha. yeah, my brain isn’t doing anything clearly lately. My bad.