I am interested in oppinions from users of both.
Which and why in your experience. (just as a sequencer of external gear)
Thanks!
Hapax for me by a mile. Just sequencing. The midi effects are more than worth it like with the Pyramid and Hermod+. And itâs more hardware than screen. Easier to edit and place trigs. Just a lot nicer for external sequencing.
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Hapax easily. Iâve tried both, Hapax is easier to use and gets a lot more complex plus itâs smaller. Force is like, ridiculously huge.
A dedicated box will be better than a jack of all trades any day. Though if you needed just one thing to do it all Force wouldnât be a bad option. But Hapax is easily a better sequencer
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Hapax by a mile as a sequencer. Force is a great tool, but to need to be âall inâ on it IMO to get the most out of it. Itâs physically so large and cumbersome and also has a lot of depth in use (which can lead to confusing workflows). If you were just using the sequencer part and nothing else the Hapax or a elektron box would be a far better option.
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Can you load midi files into the Hapax? I know the force you can, just curious
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I have a Force. The sequencer is sorely lacking in so many useful features which is a great shame since I really like the workflow for knocking out midi loops on the fly. I wanted a Hapax too and will likely get one at some point (or one of the other modern complex midi sequencer options like Midiphy Seq 4+ etc).
I do like the Force a lot but for generative / evolving sequence play, my Minifreak and Microfreak sequence tools get me more new ideas far more quickly. Plus my Zaquencer also is great - start and end step setting, lfo/random note and cc generation etcâŚ
Iâd definitely say get the Hapax over the Force for your application.
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Yep, the Hapax got load midi with OS2.0. Better late than never.
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Another +1 for the Hapax.
Squarp seems to have taken a few cues from Elektronâs sequencer & Abletonâs clip launcher. If youâre familiar with either itâll make the Hapaxâs learning curve really easy & low friction. I love the little things Squarp has put into it like instrument definitions & the transpose track.
Before buying the Hapax Iâd used both the Pyramid & MPC500. Even though both had difficult learning curves, the Pyramid was rewarding & inspiring. The MPC was just frustrating. Since then Iâve (unfairly) never considered any other Akai. Wonât lie, the Force does seem interesting, but nah.
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I sold my push 3 and bought hapax. Really happy with the decision. Hapax doesnât feel like a computer, fast, easy to use, and I really appreciate not to have 10 000 functions I donât use
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Thanks so much for all your inputs! Greatly appreciated!
Now, if we throw in the mix the Elektron sequencer⌠still Hapax wins?
(Strictly sequencing only)
Thanks!
In my opinion, even more than the comparison with Force, itâs a difficult question. Elektron sequencer doesnât exist, Elektron make synths and samplers that can sequence themselfs and external gear. In particular they are very fast and for sequencing mono synths and drum machines. And the super power is the p-lock. For every other use it is better use other dedicated sequencers, for example Hapax.
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Great answer, thanks!
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Hapax for sure. Iâve gone back to having an MPC, but this time a 4000 and for song sequencing I think itâs hard to beat. But the Hapax is prob the best modern dedicated sequencer on the market. Used to own one as well and will likely get one in the future (when I have more space!).
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Can you pres a step on Hapax and a chord on your keboard, and have that chord on that step, like say DN?
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This is called the âlearnâ function. Explained in this video, starting at 19:00 mark.
So the order is different than than you what you describe - pick the notes first and then place them, rather than the other way around.
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And as for Elektron vs Hapax sequencerâŚ
As mentioned above, Elektron sequencer excels at mono stuff. Polyphonic sequencing is somewhat annoying in my opinion.
I donât really think that it is debatable that a large grid is the optimal way to do hardware sequencing. Although the Elektron way is powerful the big problem is the lack of context. If you come back to a project after a long time it is very hard to understand what is going on. What notes are playing where, no overview of what the drums are doingâŚ
If you separate the sequencer from the sound generating part of the device it really isnât all that special anymore, in my opinion. For example, I really donât miss the Elektron sequencer when I am sequencing the ST with Hapax. Rolls, conditional trigs, probability etc is all there. HOWEVER, in the case of the DT I often feel different. Especially the slice machine works best used with the internal sequencer.
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How can you quantize only 1 note in Hapax?
And is it possible to quantize live rec?
Yes, you can select an area and quantize it, could be one note, the area or all.
And the mTime cam be set to record on 0?
Or how can you have it on all notes on zero?