First Eight Sample Buttons Go Silent (Or...) on DT2

Greets, Folks:
I am a newbie tot he Electron world, having just acquired a Digitakt 2. It’s a sweet-looking device, not gonna lie!

I have been slowly, but surely, going through the excellent beginner’s tutorial posted by Cuckoo on YouTube, and now I’m just 30 minutes in. I had to go back a few times, because for some reason, after going through the process of creating a project, then recording a pattern, for some reason that is a bit frustrating, at some point, after all the sounds in the pattern have worked, at some stage the first eight buttons with samples are either silent, or somehow the samples in them are gone. It is from the default project that I loaded.

When that happened, I ended up clearing the project to make it anew, and start over. A good way to get to learn via repetition, but sucks when the same issue happens about 3 times now and I’m not sure if it’s user error or something else.

I have upgraded not long ago to the latest firmware. I have not cleared the project, so not sure if it’s a bug I hit or what. I am proceeding with the video tutorial until I really need to start over with the new project.

I’d appreciate some insight; thanks!

Hi! Welcome to the forum

Have you muted them? FUNC+track number

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Welcome aboard :slight_smile:

Note that there are two mute modes, one is global mute (for the entire project, green leds), the other is pattern mute (it is saved with the pattern and doesn’t affect other patterns, purple leds).

Another lead could be the audio routing: System (cog) > Audio Routing > To Main should show 21/21)

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Hey thanks for the welcome and reply!

I tried your suggestion, and seems to have no effect.

I do see all of the selected pads flashing in the same color when the pattern plays, including the ones that are silent on the top row. When I press FUNCTION and one of those silent pads, it changes its color and becomes inactive. When I do the same again, it enables it and I can see it flashing again during playback.

For fun, I checked the levels of each of the silent ones, and they look normal.

Hey there; appreciate the welcome and reply!

None of the other mute modes seem to be engaged, at least none of the colors other than the orange pattern LED are visible.

Regarding Audio Routing, I did confirm that it’s 21/21.

Like I mentioned to @bruicegill, during playback, the pads with the samples are all in the same white color and are all flashing, but only the ones on the top row can be heard. The only samples I’ve chosen on the top row are 1 for the kick, 2 for the snare, from the factory default preset that was created with the project. Even when playback is paused, tapping on any of the top row (1-8) will flash white, but no sound can be heard. I know some of the others include closed and open hats.

So, that’s where I"m at.

What happens when you create a new project?

There should be 2 different color Trig Colors for the mutes.

If the Green light in mode 1 is on(the trig contains Green) the track is unmuted.

Mode 2- Purple. If the trig contain purple, the track is unmuted.

You said the trig lights aren’t on- if you push the trigger button, and it lights up Green or Purple- then the track was muted.

The lights will need to contain the respective color or one mute could override the others status

Check the sample Start parameter?
My DT sometimes acts weird on booting and the Start parameter will jump to 127, effectivlely starting the sample at the end. The key still flashes, as the trig is active, but there will be no sound because the sample start point is at the end of the sample.

New Project is created with the default factory settings, including the sounds.

All the samples will play. But at some point, after creating a pattern with those sounds, seems that when I leave for awhile and then return to play again, this is when I do not hear all of the sounds on playback. The top row of samples is silent.

I have done this three times (create new project, record in Pattern 1, playback includes all recorded sounds, then later (after leaving DT2 on for hours or after switching it back on), playback shows it’s playing all selected pads, but not all sounds can be heard.

I’ll check those out, soon. I have not gotten to TRIG mode in the tutorial video yet. I’m a fraud that my lack of knowledge might be contributing to the feeling of being spun around again and again.

When I have a moment, I’ll take a look. Thank you.

To clarify, when you create a pattern in your new blank project which has loaded with default samples on the first 8 trigs, you are entering recording mode, switching between different tracks in recording mode, entering sequencer data for each track and then it is all playing back as normal. You then leave the digitakt, come back, and then the first 8 (the default samples) which you used for a pattern are not sounding on sequencer playback and also not triggering the sample to play when you hit the trig keys. Is that right?

So, first, you are positive that you are not still in step recording mode? The red circle is no longer lit?

Second, it’s important to clarify that on the digitakt a sample is different from a sound, it’s semantic, but in Elektron language it has a different meaning. So since a “sample” is used on the track level (as a track level sound) you are referring to samples and not sounds, correct?

On the source page, when you look at the slot which indicates the selected sample number, does it say off? Or does it still show a sample number? If you turn the encoder to change the sample, is it still on the expected sample?

I get the feeling there is a simple misunderstanding here but we need to figure out what it is, and also my knowledge is digitakt 1 specific (not DTII), but they should not be so different in Elektron terms that between the few of us we can’t figure this out if we get more information from you.

Edit: “sound” is the old word, I’m seeing that “preset” is the new word which replaced it.

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The tapping the keys and not hearing it is weird. even in muted state, with sequencer paused/off, you hit the key you hear the sample.

agreed

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It’s always possible that there’s a problem with the machine, or some unseen circumstance outside of the user’s control is causing the issue, but there’s a hole in the center of this mystery and it will likely soon become apparent where it is.

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I await…with baited (coffee)breath…

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The mystery may be solved by watching the Cuckoo DTII tutorial which he’s following along with. Unfortunately, I can’t dig into that right now, but I assume that it occurs within the first 30 minutes as that’s the timeframe indicated by OP to when watching the tutorial mutated into an Elektronauts topic.

I’ll try and give it a peek later if this is still unresolved.

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I suppose you mean ABATED breath.

The smell of coffee can be pretty effective bait for some people. Not so sure about coffee breath though…

Wow, what a community!

Thanks to everyone for chiming in on my issue! I’ll return to this thread and your responses, within the next day or two; I have a lot of my plate and need to get them sorted.

In spite of the issue I’ve ran into, as well as some trial-and-error, I’m having fun with this groove box. I have the SP404 MK2, and I still have it, but felt that it was a different workflow. I’m not abandoning it; I’ll hold onto it and give it a chance. On the other hand, the immediacy of the Digitakt 2 screams instant inspiration. I have a lot to learn yet, but this speaks to me and my creative sensibilities.

The one challenge that I have is that I’m a low vision user, and I have to use some freaky physical optics at times to see really close. That said, it has the best small OLED monochrome screen I’ve seen on a device. I will have to get to grips with using muscle memory, but doesn’t seem like too much menu diving for most common tasks.

Anyway, thanks again. I’ll get back to y’all later!

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Coffee breath is the opposite of bait.

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Coffee itself though, is most certainly person-bait.

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