Can you connect the touché to the pedal inputs on the peak? Then you could use that in the mod matrix to work similarly to the perf macros on the A4 and Rytm (ie provide relative value modulation, rather than jumping to absolute values). If you just want to do it over MIDI, you could use after touch, mod wheel and velocity to do something similar (I don’t think you can use breath control) and effectively provide a performance macro, it obv that would be way less flexible
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I’ve had my touché a couple months so far, and really have only used a few hardware presets.
- A4 performance macros A-D (huge flexibility once the signal is in the A4)
- 4x CV out, used with minibrute, microbrute, 0-coast
- Those two, except only 3 outputs, where the third is assigned bidirectional to both left+right
- Those, but only two outputs (top/bottom), and pitchbend enabled left+right
Considering how much I use the A4 in my workflow, I get huge value without having to sort out lots of different Touche presets. (just remapping A4 perf macros)
The 0-coast, my latest addition, similarly has enough onboard flexibility that I don’t have to tweak the Touché CV output configuration for different synth patches.
I was unsure for a long time about the Touché before I finally went for one. And I think the issue is that it’s such a novel way to control (you can’t even think about this level of immediate expression/responsiveness out of a knob, let alone 4 knobs simultaneously), that it’s hard for someone else’s demo to be compelling, compared to what you can whip up the instant you plug the tool into your own personal workflow/sound/style.
(Expressive E did nail it with some of their demos, which sold me, but it’s hard to find many other people using it)
here’s one of the first things I sketched up with it:
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Darn it, this thread has me hankering after a Touche once more!
There is a cheaper SE version - any thoughts / downsides? Smaller footprint? Less wood? Less functionality?
Mostly for VST as it’s very limited for hardware control.
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ah! So it‘s lacking MIDI and CV, right?
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Yep, but with a computer or other usb-midi host device you can pretty much get the same functionality. Just not when it’s “stand-alone”
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Not exactly since if you connect the SE to a USB host its still limited in comparison.
4 CC vs 8 CC
No CV functionality
1 memory slot vs 24
So if you plan on using it with hardware and not software instruments hooked to a computer the SE is very limited. There are plenty of hardware presets for the original as well.
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Fair enough. I used mine quite happily with hardware while I had it one though but CV wasn’t my thing
As fun as it was, it quickly became a pain in the arse setting things up though for various bits of kit and software. That’ll be consistent with either model and gives me a bit of the fear when I consider I’ve got a. Osmose on preorder!
Well, I’m sure that the novelty wears off after a while. 
While setting them up can be a chore the original supports hardware presets which can be loaded so that can certainly make it easier and faster.
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fwiw, Expressive E is actively working on software and firmware, so there’s definitely potential for streamlining workflow of tweaking configuration
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Has anybody compared the SE and non-SE side by side in terms of build quality? I have the feeling the non-SE has a little too wobbly / cheap build quality on the lower end (buttons / knob).
My touche se arrived today. I haven’t gotten into using it as an “instrument” that much. But what I have noticed while fiddling around with the presets is that you have to practice using it.
What I have done more though is using it as a controller in studio one. I had it control reverb dry/wet, saturation, filter and trash2 conv on its 4 axis for one channel and instantly fell in love. It was so fun and so musical controlling the parameters. And there was so much variation. On one single channel. I just sat there letting a looped region play, just messing around. Using this thing on multiple channels throughout will be amazing!
And maybe I’ll even use it for what its normally intended for also 
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Hi Carl Mikael,
Great video about the SE in combination with hardware synths. I both have Blokas Midihub and Retrokits RK-006, so midi hosting is no issue. But in the beginning you mentioned you wrote some code. Would this be necessary too with for example the RK-006 (or any other midi host device) ?
Point is: 160 euro difference between the original and the SE is quite a bit of money, however, I’m prepared to pay the difference in case the original is more ‘user-friendly’. If no coding is required, I might as well save the money and get the SE anyway.
What are your thoughts ?
Thanks in advance,
Vinnie
Hey!
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This was a while ago. And I’m not sure what I did. Re-watching the video, I’m not sure what you mean by coding. Where do I say this? Can you post a time stamp?
As far as I recall, the only real difference between the two versions is that the SE relies on USB midi. Whereas the original is more equipped when it comes to in/out.
OK. I have several videos in this thread. The scripting done is made rather in relation to the FH-1 CV/Midi interface for eurorack and doesn’t really have to do with the Touché… SE or original.
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I recently rediscovered the Touché because of the Osmose release and got one today. This is such an interesting and beautifully designed instrument. So far I’ve experimented using it with Serum and Plaits and after just a few hours I feel like I’ve rediscovered the physicality of making music again.
Touché really shines when you start interacting with vcas, it gives everything that cello chords vibes !
probably 20months too late for you Brett, but just in case it’s useful for anyone (else),
just wrote about this here
Not sure i understand what you mean, but in case i do the Haken CVC is output only.
An option for using the Expressive E Touché CV outputs with the Eagan Matrix, would be to use the Eagan Matrix Module which has CV inputs.
ah, I thought the cvc also had inputs… oh well, EMM or midi then
as was discussed on the topic though, really the Touche doesn’t add much over the touch area, when using osmose or continuum - so not a big deal.