Expert Sleepers Disting NT

Taking the Disting to its logical conclusion seemingly, a 22hp box of many, many tricks. Interesting that many of the algorithms were .json files, so might be easy enough to create your own.

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very cool [big], but cool!

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I wonder if the other Disting’s will get the updated Algorithms?

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Wondering what this is, it’s worth watching this :

Prime competitor ( more or less same price ) :


4ms Meta Module modular VCV 26 HP
Different so choosing is a matter of preferrences.

Also worth considering Zoia Euroburo at 34 HP.

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the json files are 'presets/patches - not algorithms.
(there is also scripting too… but again, not really algorithms)

I’d say the key thing here is that the disting-nt is going for a simplified patching system.
in many ways, I think the target audience is quite different…

many find the virtual modular approach a little too ‘complicated’ to be done in a small form factor. this is what ES are trying to address, by having a much simplified patching system.
whilst this has its limitations, the appeal is, it’ll be more immediate to use.

so I suspect, those that want

  • flexibility will go with the Meta,
  • more immediacy (within limits of a multi function module!) will opt for disting-nt.

ofc, its a bit more ‘subtle that this’, but that’s the drive…
(also, why Os is keen to say this is not a virtual modular, which it is , but with a ‘skin’ :laughing:)

anyway, I think its a great design… as I do think it creates flexibility with a bit more immediacy.

though, given I have Percussa ssp/xmx and 4ms Meta, unlikely id buy one… but I think many will (esp. as ES/Disting has a great rep)

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Cool, I could probably replace a few modules with one of these. Also looks a bit less painful to use than the other Distings

Yes, the mixer in particular looks very powerful, I have the ‘EX’ but probably will replace it with this module for the screen and expanded I/O.

Yeah while making patches on the Meta Module is possible, definitely setting them up on a computer is preferable.

Lots more to compare though.

Raw processing power, how complex a patch possible, which relates to the processor on board, efficiency of the implementations, and other factors.

Fit of the module set to your needs. ( The Mutable algorithms on the Meta Module, plus all the complex third party stuff. )

Larger color screen on MM.

Choice of knobs, buttons and jack ports, and any option expansions.

If you are already a VCV user.

Blah, blah, blah.

But enough on that. This thread is on the disting NT. And it looks super. Perhaps both ?

in theory yes… in practice, for me, no…
I’d say Ive done 80+ % patching directly on the module, and I dont see that changing even with wifi add-on.


however, yeah, Disting NT focus is much more on immediacy.
the fact its has 2 encoders + 4 buttons will make things reasonably quick.

the ‘linear chain’ will make it easier to ‘see the patch’, getting an oversight is easier.

(though, I will say, remember what you are using the various busses for, on a more complex patch will become a little challenging - however, I think most will have fairly simple patches, so a non-issue)

personally, this is the most appealing dist-ing to me to date, the most usable and flexible (without referring to a manual).

seems reasonably priced… esp given its IO (12 in / 6 out is pretty generous)

I even like the screen, I think in many environments it’ll be easier to read than some others.

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I don’t use VCV and have never had a disting, because of how much it does with little screen real estate. As my next imminent purchase will most likely be Ableton Move, This is very high on my list.

Nice that it does i2c bus as well, so great way to connect to other modules without standard patch cables. Lots of module options for this ( MM included ), and more in the future. This will help gel a modular system for configuration.

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Also worth noting it’s a class compliant USB audio interface too. Apparently all the jacks/busses can be addressed via your PC / iOS device. According to oz on Modwiggler, it’s comparable to ES-9 less the 1/4" outs and headphone jack, and for the moment it’s limited to 48khz, though this is supposed to change.

So for me it’s a USB audio interface / mixer with effects and bonus stuff. Since I’ve recently dived into the world of iPad music apps, this could not be a better timed release. I was looking at ES-9, but it’s 50mm deep and I like smaller cases.

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er-301 + NT via i2c!?

This video from Expert Sleepers shows using i2c with the disting NT and a Michigan Sound Works F8R. Video queued.

And a video with the nitty gritty of connecting a disting EX to a an Expert Sleepers CVM-8. I assume the disting NT would be similar.

Some care and consideration is needed using i2c as it is really just a low level chip to chip sort of connection, so all i2c devices don’t necessarily just plug together, especially when there might be multiple masters and agents, and also that software protocol matters.

The disting NT is also compatible with the Select Bus.

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I wonder if you can record the output of the mixer to the SD card? Need to hit the manual!

From Synthfest UK via Nick Batt :

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Might be time to replace my MK4 :grimacing:
Would be great with my ER-301

Os, as he says, DEFINITELY listens to his users. And he’s super helpful. I bug him a fair bit :relaxed:

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I’m a big fan of Disting mk4… and now: bang! A Disting NT pops up, with a lot of knobs and sockets.
A fast look to the manual and I know that Expert Sleepers will surely have my moneys for it!! :scream:

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Now that’s the real GAS!

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Just modified! :rofl::rofl:

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