Erica Synths PĒRKONS HD-01

After owning this thing a few years (in all its original blue glory) I want to really like it…but man I just can’t dial in a snare sound I like. The actual snare samples they used for Channel 3 don’t do it for me; too nasal and not enough punchy IMHO. I suppose I could augment it with some samples from, say, Push 3, but that kinda defeats the purpose of having the thing as a standalone drum machine.

For me it’s hard to dial in kicks I like too. Although part of that is no doubt how Perkons is supposed to be…harder and aggressive kicks are its forte. Imagine the gabber beats you could write with this thing! It would be cool if Girts took the form factor of Perkons and slapped a new set of samples on it (maybe an “HD-02”).

I’ve been on the edge of selling it for awhile - then I see excited devotees here in this thread and think “shit maybe I can finally dial in something I like.” Getting closer to putting it on Reverb though.

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Just to add: those are samples but digitally generated sounds. (Just to make sure nobody gets confused here :wink: )

Algo 2 on channel 3 is a bit nasal but that’s more a clap like algo. Algo 1 contains the shares but you can dial those in toward clap-ishness as well. I found the most succes by dialing down the noise parameter on each of those modes within algo 1 to have it sound more like a distorted tom sort of. But of course you have to like that sort of thing :); also a great algo for bass lines and shakers :slight_smile:

Totally valid comment though. It does have a very particular sound that you either love or hate.

Oh one more thing. Layering with something in push is one thing. But try processing the seperate voices in push like you would with any snare. Eq, comp etc. It can really bring it all to a next level.

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Thanks for the suggestions!

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I sold mine because of the “sameness” of the sounds. It can make a lot of different sounds but not enough that are useful for my personal style of music. But i freaking love the UI and playability of it. Never had a better feeling electronic instrument so far. If they bring out a sample version of it i’ll get one asap.

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I’ve been thinking about buying a second one for a long time now. I never thought I’d have double the fun.

So I bought a Perkons. Enjoying it so far. Regarding the send and returns, if I plug a pedal into the send and return for a channel, this then bypasses the BBD right? And I should use the pedal as 100% wet?

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Both correct. No rule of course. Maybe a bit of signal doubling can have a nice optional flangy effect

And congratulations with the beautiful instrument :+1:t2:

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So I after extensive messing around with Perkons, I realize I had it all wrong.

Like many have said, it really is an instrument…it’s great for happy accidents, is very performable, and lends itself to live creation. But my problem was approaching it as a drum machine rather than a synth that makes a variety of crazy sounds.

The drum machine approach did not work for me at all…I just wasn’t crazy about the sounds, and the sequencer (while being pretty cool) didn’t jive with me for drum programming.

My own breakthrough was in abandoning a.) any pretense that I’d be using the Perkons for drums (other that weird perc sounds) and instead using a separate drum track, and b.) not trying to overthink things from a sound design perspective - and instead let the machine guide me.

In short, I was mid-curving it:

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To put this in more concrete terms, I’ll have an underlying drum part and then just start tweaking everything on Perkons. If a sound works, I’ll blend it more heavily into the mix and start modifying it. If it doesn’t work, I’ll leave it out.

This is so liberating; I don’t have to to worry about returning to “that perfect closed hat” sound I had, or finding it in the first place…it’s just very organic. Along those lines, it’s also been helpful to generally just focus on 1-3 tracks at a time; with this approach, using all four simultaneously can get cluttered in the mix. What’s cool, though, is that this allows you to create some fun call-and-response jams where you alternate which parts are muted.

It’s also fun to save a pattern that’s a good jam, wreak absolute havoc on said pattern, and then revert to the saved pattern. (It would be cool if Erica added a Pattern Revert shortcut to do this without having to hit “pattern” and select the saved one). A randomizer for both the sequencer and kits would also be interesting to mess with.

What I’m left with, then, is a machine that is great for a variety of atonal fuckery, zappy sounds, weird textures, and so on. I find myself watching my hands randomly fly all over the machine, tweaking knobs, switches, and step buttons without giving it much thought at all. Live sound design without overthinking it! (My left brain will kick in when it’s time to add more variety, say, by adding a probability or odds trigger).

I’m still not sure if the sounds I get from this approach warrants inclusion in my live setup (I mean it is a really big freakin machine), but I’m finally having FUN with Perkons. My goal is to do most things live and without too much prep (a la Surgeon’s live sets), and I think I see a path forward here. Thanks to @DaveMech and others here for all the tips and encouraging advice. It really is a strange and interesting beast.

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Now you need to take it to the next level with a bunch of Perkons voices in Eurorack format :wink:

  • All algos in one module
  • Patch per module (instead of whole kit)
  • Instant recall of patch via CV
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Has any one here with a Perkons had any issues with syncing to other gear? I have to add a negative delay to Ableton Live of about 0.6 but then that throws off any other gear going out of that port. I tried it also synced to MPC X and Octatrack, and my Perkons is always slightly but noticeably delayed. Erica haven’t been that helpful, other that telling me they haven’t heard it happen to anyone else. I love my Perkons but for me it’s not usable if it won’t play nicely with other gear… (e.g. Perkons, OT, 303).

I have no sync issues with my perkons. I’m using a cirklon as my master clock though.
I have used my OT to clock it as well, no problems there. Must be something strange going on with how you are clocking things and setting the delay in ableton.

I have no problems syncing everything else in my studio with no noticeable delay except for Perkons. I don’t normally use any delay in Ableton for other gear.

That’s pretty strange. I know this sounds dumb but did you try a different midi cable?

Yeah, various

No issues here and I have run ableton clock into Perkons and had perkons send it’s clock to 3-4 other devices.

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That’s a shame. I can only imagine your perkons has some issue with the midi. Have you tried using the Perkins as your clock source?

Absolutely! I view it as a kind of ‘techno rhythm’ instrument rather than a drum machine. Like a really good DFAM or something.

It can and will form the backbone of your groove, but you will need another drum machine to provide more traditional sounds.

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Interesting. I guess it’s time to try a factory reset

Just tried a factory reset and no help. I could do that but it wouldn’t be so convenient to having everything clocked by Perkons.

Also have no clock problems with the Perkins