@ratsnake
Thank your for the svg file.It’s working fine.
Could you give me all type of envelope shapes?
About connect button issue.
If your use older version of Max for live,
update your M4L.
And delete all Max 6 Preferences Files.
About initilize button.
Initialize button should initial all the knobs in the editor.
Which editor do you use?M4L version?
@hyakken I think he meant initialize a patch on the AF which would then initialize the editor - it simply has to be done the other way, send all default values from the editor to the synth to syncronize - i don’t have your editor but you could use a number of methods to send presets including pattr if you are feeling very brave 
Sorry for my misunderstanding.
If A4 send specific message when initialize its sound,
It’s possible to add that function.
I checked A4,
but it seems A4 doesn’t send any message.
So I can’t do anything about that.
And your svg file works perfect!!
Hmm I don`t think I was clear because I am not talking about A4 sending init message!
I mean - when I press init patch on the editor - it send init request to A4…and the pattern is reset.
But I don`t think this init button does anything to the settings on the editor.
not sure where to check version of m4l, but max runtime is newest.
it seems both of my complaints are a problem of my versions. will investigate and try to update - thanks for answers
also - maybe like your tbseq, it would be possible to save presets of patches in the a4 editor? 
ps: sent SVGs!
** and m4l also function correct… No idea why i thought it didn`t work, maybe was too much beer. All is ok!
Thank you for envelope shape files!
I will update the editor this weekend using your effort.
And also I will add preset function.
Update(1.63)
Now envelope shapes are graphical.(thank you ratsnake)
I have some problems with preset function,
so I need some more time.
Two new M4L patches
Audio to A4
This patch convert audio signal to parameter value.
So you can control A4 parameters by audio signal.
A4 Side Chainer
Similar to “Audio to A4” patch,
this patch makes side chain effect.
very cool stuff!
man i was thinking…why is the OSC pwm speed not tempo lockable…i dont want to waste an lfo assignment on it.
cry cry
Now I’m making the patch for sherman filterbank.
So after this I will make LFO for A4 patch.
oh man i would’t mind one of those. what do you use it for? even the logo reminds me of some kind of belgian rave
Yes,it’s a patch for belgian filter.
If you have Jomox Airbase99 or sherman filterbank.
Please check these.
http://www.maxforlive.com/library/device/1983/sherman-control
[url=“http://www.maxforlive.com/library/device/1977/editor-and-grid-sequencer-for-jomox-airbase99”]http://www.maxforlive.com/library/device/1977/editor-and-grid-sequencer-for-jomox-airbase99
And now I’m making A4 editor without ableton to A4 patch.
This version has some limitations.
But it’s simpler than current version.
if only i had those…
I can’t get A4 to initialize… if I change manually the knobs it works, but pressing initial next to noise does not do it.
This is a very cool endeavor…. thanks for making it 
ive got a sherman. Nice!
is this the max 4 live version or wat
a4, airbase, sherman filterbank…
this is officially a mid 90s rave thread
Sherman FB is a very nice filter.
And it’s fun to use!
@brunatius
Can you give some more detail about your setup.
Do you use standalone or m4l?
And do you connect A4 and computer via USB?
Now I’m making without "ableton to a4"patch version.
But I have a big problem with ableton’s midi input.
It seems ableton converts any midi ch to ch1 like picture below.
^ it also may not, it explains that your issue is a defined behaviour
this may help 
Hey,
I’m connecting via USB to the standalone version open in the Max itself (I have it). Does it work via midi instead of USB ? I also could not have the poly thing to work with input from my mini brute (via MIDI, not usb)
I can randomize the tracks (very cool). Changing one individual knob on the interface does update the A4. Changing a knob on A4 does update the interface.
I also have Live so I could help test in it. I think it’s a known thing with live and the channel stuff. I believe people need workarounds. Please see this
@avantronica
Thank you for the information.
But it’s Mac only!
I’m a minority,so I can’t try.
@brunatius
about poly/layer issue
I think it’s my fault.
I wrote “uncheck all midi in/out port except elektron A4” in the setup guide,
but this is technically incorrect.
You need to check midi note input port.
In your case,go to Midi setup menu and check minibrute’s midi port.
I think it’s work for you.
And sorry about that.
I have to rewrite a4 setup guide.
about initialize button
If you push the initialize button,
does the button flash yellow?
about standard midi in/out port
I never tried standard midi port.
So I will try it tommorow.
about ableton midi input issue
Thank you for the information.
I will try “MXJ MidiIn” tommorow.
http://www.mo-seph.com/MXJMidiDevice
ah, Dave’s an acquaintance from this part of the world, let us know how that works out - I rarely use M4L, quite a few restrictions to overcome unfortunately
